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[Donald Meaker]

And then there is the Freer logion:

"For this faithless age belongs to Satan...."

[tenn2005]

The errors in your post are numerous but to point out just a few:

There is no punctuation to change. The Greek text, from which most English texts are derived, has no punctuation. All punctuation is non-inspired. It's why translators translate Mark 16:9 differently:

1. The puctuation that I was referring to is the punctuation adopted by all of the translators of the mainstream translations of the Bible. I know that there is no punctuation in the Greek.

(KJV-1611) Now when Iesus was risen early, the first day of the Week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seuen deuils.

2. This is a deliberate misquote of the KJV. You have added a comma after the word "early" which does not exist in the KJV. Check your spelling also. Lets at least be honest for the sake of others on this forum.

3. Your other references are to little known and little recognized translations which no scholar would give much credence to.

The bible clearly states that they did not see him at (or more correctly, just after) his resurrection:

4. Mary Magdalene saw Him very early at the tomb just after his resurrection. (John 20:11-14)

Mary did see him, in Galilee, very early on the first day of the week:

5. Jesus tomb was in Jerusalem, not Galilee.

More study of the scriptures would be very beneficial before posting comments that tend to mislead others who are truly seeking the truth.

[Donald Meaker]

The interesting thing about Mithra: appears it was invented as the reason for the Solstice moving from Taurus. Hence Mithra as having slain the great bull.

Oh, and the Zorosterians would build a throne in a fire, as the seat of the "Son of G-d". The "Son of G-d" would not be harmed by the fire.

[Donald Meaker]

I prefer Judges 1:19

G-d could not help the Jews defeat the people of the plane because they had Iron Chariots.

[tenn2005]

In addition to this, Mark 16:9-20 may have been added later by some dark ages monk to try and prove a Sunday morning resurrection.

When all else fails, cut the pages that you don't like out of your Bible.

The God whom I worship had the ability to inspire men to write that which He intended to be His message to mankind. He also has the ability to protect His word from error and preserve it through the ages so people today can understand and be accountable to Him based on the same information as those in previous centuries.

If your God does not have these abilities then I would reccommend changing to mine.

[Donald Meaker]

Perhaps the women should be silent while others are talking, teaching, and debating. These simple manners were already known to Jewish Men and interested pagans from synagogues, but admitting women was new, and even radical. It may be that that some learing was happening on all sides.

[Donald Meaker]

To my mind, Contantine may have had doubts about One G-d, but was very sure about One Empire and One Emperor.

When he sat as chair of the bishops at Nicea, he was head of the Roman State, Head of the Church (Pontifex Maximus) and had the power to set prices by fiat, so head of the roman economy.

6 was the perfect number, since the sum and product of its factors was the same (1+2+3 is 1x2x3). So 666 refered to someone perfect in these three spheres. Constantinius was the Antichrist, who twisted the Church from a voluntary community of faith to an established church with a bureaucracy, rules, and an arm of the Roman government.

Since that time, the Holy Spirit has been silent.

[spunkets]

Revelations was written by John. 666 refers to John 6:66, "From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him."

[Ranald S. MacKenzie]

There are fragments of Matthew at Magdalen College in Oxford that date to ca. 70 a.d.. These fragments are a copy, not the original (I don't know how papyrologists determine this), so the original must be older than this. With the crucifixion at ca. 30 a.d., there must have been many, many eyewitnesses still alive when Matthew was written that were around when the events recorded in the gospel actually transpired. Most scholars date Mark even earlier than Matthew.

This doesn't even take into account the authorship of the gospel, which most conservative scholars and early church tradition ascribe to the Apostle Matthew himself.

[aberaussie]

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[Tanniker Smith]

That is why scholars don't use AD.

No, it is because they are a bunch of facists Nazis who are trying to co-opt the calendar. Regardless of the error (yes, Christ was born 4-6 years Before Christ, silly aint it?), the calendar we have was devised by a Christian monk (Little Dennis) and was later altered by the Pope. Its focal point is the birth of the man who has changed this Earth more than any other person in history who has ever lived.

If the secularists don't like that, they can create their own calendar. The Chinese have their own calendar and so do the Jews. Does anyone use them? Sure, lots of people. But many more don't, and the secularists know that the only way to have a calendar not centered on Christ that people would use is to blatantly steal the current system and erase Christ from it.

There is nothing COMMON about their so-called COMMON ERA. It doesn't date to the start of the Roman Empire, any particular advancement in civilization, any Earth-shattering moment or cosmic line-up of the heavens. It's B.C. with an extra letter and A.D. being whitewashed.

And NO ONE should take anyone who using those bastardized (apropos, the usage has no legitimate parcentage) concoctions shouldn't be taken seriously. They should be mocked and shunned.

TS

[Amelia]

This doesn't even take into account the authorship of the gospel, which most conservative scholars and early church tradition ascribe to the Apostle Matthew himself.

The authorship of the Gospel of Matthew is something of a puzzle. It is unlikely that the canonical Matthew represents a translation of an original Aramaic/Hebrew version composed by the apostle Matthew, since the author of the Gospel of Matthew probably used the Gospel of Mark as a source. Nevertheless, it is probably safe to conclude that the apostle Matthew wrote something that has some connection to the canonical Gospel of Matthew. But what exactly that text was and its connection to the canonical Matthew is difficult to determine.

If you click the link, there is a lot more, and more indepth explanation of those points.

[Cvengr]

You still don't get it.

It isn't up to man to decide what is God's revelation.

God Himself will use what He has provided in the fulfillment of His plan. That which was made by man, independent of Him, is good for nothingness and He will not use it in the further sanctification of our soul (our thinking) or our spirit as we are now also living spiritual beings.

Likewise, that which He has revealed to man, He is free to use to further His plan in righteousness.

Those who have been advocating the Gospel of Judas and many who have been criticizing the canon of Scripture, miss the point that manmade groupings of literature are NOT what composes Scripture.

On the contrary, when a man submits to faith in Christ, his new spirit and heart will yearn to continue his fellowship with God, and his further sanctification is only possible through the work of the Holy Spirit. That further work is entirely the work of God, not the legalism or rationalism of the believer. Nevertheless, the regenerate man still has an old sin nature, a scarred soul, a faulty thinking process that is likely to sin again out of habit. Accordingly, if one has developed a habit of comparing literature to choose what he likes, rather than first coming to God through faith in Christ, turning away from even sins of doing what is right in own eyes rather than submission to God, then that same thinking is scarred and good for nothingness.

[DouglasKC]

1. The puctuation that I was referring to is the punctuation adopted by all of the translators of the mainstream translations of the Bible. I know that there is no punctuation in the Greek.

As I said, punctuation is non-inspired. Some translators render punctuation differently than others. The "Message Bible" is about as "mainstream" as you can get if you're judging by numbers of copies sold. It renders the passage:

Mar 16:9 [After rising from the dead, Jesus appeared early on Sunday morning to Mary Magdalene, whom he had delivered from seven demons.

2. This is a deliberate misquote of the KJV. You have added a comma after the word "early" which does not exist in the KJV. Check your spelling also. Lets at least be honest for the sake of others on this forum.

This is an accurate quote of the King James 1611 Version. Not the King James Authorized Version, which was published in 1769. Nor the Revised version, which was published much later.

(KJV-1611) Now when Iesus was risen early, the first day of the weeke, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seuen deuils.

I added nothing.

4. Mary Magdalene saw Him very early at the tomb just after his resurrection. (John 20:11-14)

It depends on how you define "just after". According to John, she came to the tomb while it was still dark and the tomb was empty, the stone was rolled back (John 20:1) The book of Matthew verifies that this was what we would call Saturday night (Matthew 28:1).

She then ran back to Peter and John and told them that he had already risen.(John 20:2) How long did it take her to get back to John and Peter, to find them, and to convince them?

John and Peter then went back to the tomb (John 20:3-8). How long did that take?

John and Peter spent a certain amount of time there. How long? Then they left. John 20:10

Mary stayed there at the tomb. (John 20:11). How long did she stay there at the tomb before the angel appeared? After all these events, after an unspecified amount of time, she then saw Jesus and mistook him for the gardner. We KNOW this happened early on what we would call Sunday morning because of Mark 16:9. We know that she did not see him until Sunday morning because John continues:

Joh 20:18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.
Joh 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

The "same day at evening", the same day when Mary had seen Jesus, Sunday night, the disciples were hiding out.

He was resurrected just before sundown on what we call Saturday night. Mary first saw him on what we call Sunday morning.

5. Jesus tomb was in Jerusalem, not Galilee.

Yes, I realize that. I did misspeak about where he appeared to Mary and I thank you for pointing it out. He appeared to the disciples in Galillee later on, as promised. He appeared to Mary Sunday morning.

[Uri’el-2012]

The Council of Nicea was summoned, and presided over, by the Emperor Constantine.

Constantine, Pontifex Maximus of the Roman state religion.

He called all the bishops of the eastern and western churches to attend.

The bishop of Rome was invited to attend but he chose not to attend.

One of the titles of the Roman Emperor was Pontifix Maximus,
a title given to the Roman Emperor by the king of Ephesus
who had inherited the title from Babylon

This title goes all the way back to Babylon and the beginnings of the mother-child
cult under Nimrod of Genesis 10 and his wife Sumerimus. Later,
Julius Caesar was elected Pontifex Maximus and when he became Emperor,
he became the supreme civil and religious ruler and head of Rome
politically and religiously with all the power and functions of the Babylonian pontiff.

Here was the magnificent temple of Esculapius, a pagan god
whose idol was in the form of a serpent.
The inhabitants were known as the chief temple keepers of Asia.
When the Babylonian cult of the Magians was driven out of Babylon,
they found a haven in Pergamum.

The title of the Magian high priest of Babylon was "Chief Bridge Builder"
meaning the one who spans the gap between mortals and Satan and his hosts.
In Latin this title was written "Pontifex Maximus,"

Revelation 2:12 "And to the angel of the church in Pergamum write:
The One who has the sharp two-edged sword says this:

Revelation 2:13 'I know where you dwell, where Satan's throne is;
and you hold fast My name, and did not deny My faith
even in the days of Antipas, My witness, My faithful one,
who was killed among you, where Satan dwells.

Revelation 2:14 'But I have a few things against you, because you
have there some who hold the teaching of Balaam,
who kept teaching Balak to put a stumbling block
before the sons of Israel, to eat things sacrificed
to idols and to commit {acts of} immorality.

Revelation 2:15 'So you also have some who in the same way
hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans.

b'shem Y'shua

[onedoug]

I'll take Tanak.

[kerryusama04]

In the words of our Lord:

Luk 22:8 And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat.

snip

Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and broke it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

The day of Jesus' resurrection was a glorious one indeed. The reason that many claim it was on the First Day of the week is to justify Sunday observance vice Sabbath. However, nowhere is it commanded in the Bible to switch the day of rest to Sunday. Of the 4 Gospel accounts of the resurrection, 3 say the tomb was "discovered empty" early on the the First Day of the week, and the 4th is subject to interpretation.

Here is the truth about the Easter Sunday observance from the source:

Q: What determines the date Easter Sunday falls on or when Lent begins?

A: The Council of Nicaea, in 325 A.D., determined that Easter should be celebrated the first Sunday after the first full moon of spring. To determine the beginning of Lent, count back six Sundays before Easter. The Wednesday before the first of these Sundays is Ash Wednesday.

It is a matter of where one decides to take one's theology.

[onedoug]

Interesting post. Thanks.

[Just mythoughts]

I do not disagree with you, what I would add Christ became the Sabbath and it is in Him that we rest every day of the week.

No I am not saying it is wrong to go to church on Sunday or Saturday, just that the calendars have been altered so much by so many that realistically and/or legally speaking no man can with confidence say that our days of the week this day are the specific days of the week from Exodus when the law was given to keep the Sabbath.