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We all know homosexuality a sin. No disagreement there.

But where I part ways with you and Fred Phelps is when you claim that we should kill them.

Neither one of you are conservative.

And you should change your name. Ann Coulter would call you a kook.

Phelps is a kook, at best. At worst, he's a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Sin is sin, no matter what the "law" says is worse. It's all the same, and we all must ask for forgivness for it. Such is calling for the death of others that do not think as you do.

Matt. 22:34 " When the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together,

35 and one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him.

36 "Teacher, which commandment in the law is the greatest?"

37 He said to him, " 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.'

38 This is the greatest and first commandment.

39 And a second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

If you prefer the KJV;

34: But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together.
35: Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36: Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37: Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38: This is the first and great commandment.
39: And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40: On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Did CCF say that homosexuals should be killed? I must have missed that part.

But where I part ways with you and Fred Phelps is when you claim that we should kill them.

That was a cheap shot. CCF never said we should kill them. CCF only points out that, "“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold truth in unrighteousness .... " In context, there are many more things "worthy of death" than just homosexuality, " Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." (See Romans 1:18-32)

The point is about God's final judgment. Speaking the truth about the sin of homosexuality has a purpose, and that is ultimately to lead them to Christ. But at least to lead them to an understanding of God's righteousness and holiness. "The commandments of the Lord are true, and righteous altogether..." It is not to become the final arbiter of their life. That's God's job.

You can view the harsh punishment of the OT as symbolic of the eternal punishment all sinners will receive at the final judgment. All will face God's judgment of death. Some will face it with a stand in -- a substitute, Christ Jesus our Lord. God will look at them and see the inputed righteousness of Christ.

Remember how Jesus said He came to save sinners, not the righteous? Well He wasn't saying that some are righteous. He was saying that knowledge of sin is the first step towards being saved. There is no potential for saving faith without the knowledge of sin.

The final judgment of all sin is death. "The wages of sin is death." Please understand, that's what I believe is the point of this post by CCF. It is more loving to speak that truth than it is to offer all the approving sentimentality in the world, because the free Gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord begins with the knowledge of your own sin.

"We all know homosexuality a sin. No disagreement there."

The condition of homosexuality is not a sin in and of itself.....it is succumbing to the same sex act that is sinful.

This is where we have done a disservice these past 30 yrs to gays. We have not taught them they do have a choice to overcome those unnatural urges. Instead we as a society have told them to succumb, it's who they are, accept it, there is nothing you can do about it. It's like trying to put the genie back in the bottle. Only now are we really hearing about the other side of sexual orientation from ex-gays but their voices are ridiculed when heard, they are heard at all.

I say who better knows the gay person than the ex-gay just as who better knows the alcoholic than the ex-alcoholice or sex-addict than the ex-sex addict. All finally overcame those abnormal urges. We need to teach our youth and society, there is a choice and at the very least allow them to make the choice. Finally, we do need to understand those who are burdened with same sex urges, pray for them and tell them the truth with love and compassion, not ridicule and hate as Fred Phelps lunatic group does.

No, there is a disagreement. As I've been forced to school you in the past, Early America following the Revolution had strict laws forbidding and punishing sodomy. Even Mr. Jefferson favored castration. Vermont made the Levitical guideline the law, South Carolina made sodomy a crime worthy of life in prison (and hard labor), and you claimed that there have been no such laws. I caught you in a lie, and I haven't forgotten that you claimed I was un-American until I routed you with factual evidence that laid waste to your vain boasting.

The only change, as far I can see, is the progressive movement that crept onto the scene around 1900...and achieved full power and authority under FDR...then we had the most destructive cultural calamity in our history, the Sixities Radicals, who have sacked our vital institutions including the church...and now we're on a race to the bottom. Your position on this issue can be likened more to the secular papacy, that of Justice Ginsburg, than that of the Apostle Paul or the great Lawgiver, Moses. I know what the Bible says, but I don't know what Mr. Phelps says and I really don't care.

As to your claim that I'm not conservative, as Mr. Bork pointed out about the 'Decline of Intellect', bold assertions don't count as reasoned, evidenced, or even sustained argument. It is irrationality, pure and simple. I am, however, more than happy to email Ann Coulter and ask her how she feels about this unknown entity, Mr. Brightside, speaking for her. I find this ironic, because you're attack on me seems to mirror the attacks Ms. Coulter received by the editor of the National Review who said she wasn't "conservative" and called her "mean-spirited." In reality, the only reason you claim that Ann Coulter would agree with you is because you are aware of her popularity among freepers and you in your lack of a cognitive process believe that you can appeal to that prejudice. Ha!

Ann Coulter would call you a kook

So you know Ann Coulter well enough to make this claim?

The same Ann Coulter who said we should "Kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity"? We are talking about the same Ann Coulter right.

Because if you don't know her well enough to make this claim, then you're just talking out your @$$, KOOK!