I'm merely trying to get some clarity here. As Dennis Prager always says, I prefer clarity to agreement. You seem to claim that you worship the same God and the same Jesus that I worship. I believe that in light of what your Apostles and Prophets have had to say on the subject, that it is inconceivable that we both worship the same God or the same Jesus.
Are you trying to Shake my faith? (Not even Close). If you were trying to shake anyone’s faith, what a despicable thing to attempt.
I'm not trying to shake your faith. That is not my job. I'm simply trying to show that the faith that you have is not the same faith that I have. I'm merely trying to show that the Jesus of mormonism and the Jesus of reformation Christianity are not the same person. I am simply trying to show that the God of Mormonism and the God of traditional Christianity are not the same God.
You may very well be right and I may very well be wrong. But both of us can't be right. We worship two entirely different beings. I think that Brighan Young and just about every Mormon prophet before him and after him made that point and I am in agreement with Brigham Young that what you guys believe about the Nature of God and what I and most of my protestant friends on this thread believe are wholly incompatible.
It's a shame you can't see to agree on that point. I don't know why you think that we all believe alike. We don't. We're not even close. That apparently was why Joseph Smith was supposedly called to restore the Church, wasn't it? Because all of us Protestants were teaching what was abominable to the God that you worship?
Look Delphi, we simply do not worship the same God. At least one of us is wrong. Maybe we're both wrong. But it is impossible that we are both right.
Now that being said, do you agree or disagree with your prophets who were quoted in the Journal of Discourses? If you disagree, then perhaps you can explain why you are correct in your doctrinal beliefs and the "prophet of God" is wrong.
Let's try and get a little clarity here. I am not attempting to get you to agree with me. I simply want to show people who are reading this what the essential differences are between Mormonism and traditional and reformation Christianity.
I can assure you I worship the same Godhead that is in the Bible I moved from Presbyterian to the fulness of the Gosple!
I answered in the post you are responding to.
He is the Same Jesus Christ, but our perception of him is different (do you know the parable of the five blind men and the elephant?)
>>Now that being said, do you agree or disagree with your prophets who were quoted in
>> the Journal of Discourses? If you disagree, then perhaps you can explain why you are
>>correct in your doctrinal beliefs and the "prophet of God" is wrong.
What does this have to do with your stated purpose?
>>I'm simply trying to show that the faith that you have is not the same faith that I have.
Are you being entirely truthful in stating your motives here?
These appear to be carefully engineered “When did you stop beating your wife?” questions.
Have you ever researched the council at Nice? (The Nicene Creed came from there) They discussed some of the same things we are (plurality of God, Mary’s Immaculate Conception, etc).
Have you ever looked into the sale of indulgences?
How about the behavior of the early popes?
There are things there that would curl your hair (if it’s not already curly) (GRIN)
In my opinion these things are not an indicator of the faith of the Catholics I meet and I would not ask any one of them how they feel about that, or if they agree, it would be just plain rude.