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To: P-Marlowe; restornu; colorcountry; Colofornian

I answered in the post you are responding to.

He is the Same Jesus Christ, but our perception of him is different (do you know the parable of the five blind men and the elephant?)

>>Now that being said, do you agree or disagree with your prophets who were quoted in
>> the Journal of Discourses? If you disagree, then perhaps you can explain why you are
>>correct in your doctrinal beliefs and the "prophet of God" is wrong.

What does this have to do with your stated purpose?

>>I'm simply trying to show that the faith that you have is not the same faith that I have.

Are you being entirely truthful in stating your motives here?

These appear to be carefully engineered “When did you stop beating your wife?” questions.

Have you ever researched the council at Nice? (The Nicene Creed came from there) They discussed some of the same things we are (plurality of God, Mary’s Immaculate Conception, etc).

Have you ever looked into the sale of indulgences?

How about the behavior of the early popes?

There are things there that would curl your hair (if it’s not already curly) (GRIN)

In my opinion these things are not an indicator of the faith of the Catholics I meet and I would not ask any one of them how they feel about that, or if they agree, it would be just plain rude.


398 posted on 05/05/2006 3:10:35 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser; colorcountry; Colofornian
He is the Same Jesus Christ, but our perception of him is different (do you know the parable of the five blind men and the elephant?)

Apparently the Jesus that you believe in is not even the same Jesus that Brigham Young believed in. Brigham Young apparently taught that Jesus was the child of Adam and Mary (one of his celestial wives).

Apparently you don't believe that, so in essence the Jesus that Brigham Young believed in was a fairy tale Jesus of his own mind and not the real Jesus. Likewise the Jesus that I believe in is not the same Jesus that you believe in. There is the real Jesus and the fairy tale Jesus.

The fact is that at least one of us believes in a fairy tale Jesus, because we certainly don't both believe in the same Jesus.

The Jesus I believe in was always God and was never anything less than God. He created (he didn't form but he created from nothing) everything that now exists or ever existed in the universe. Your Jesus was not God from all eternity, but was somehow exalted to that position after he was created as a spirit child of God the Father-- who Himself used to be a man like us.

I think it is safe to conclude that the Jesus that I believe in is not the same Jesus that you believe in.

400 posted on 05/05/2006 3:30:23 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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