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To: DelphiUser
Since Authority begins with the creator who cares where his genealogy goes? Did your dad have to get permission from Adam to spank you? This is a spurious argument at best, who’s only purpose is to muddy the waters with a Mormon belief that we are the literal son’s and Daughters of God.

LDS are the ones who make the huge deal out of having a priesthood. And this is because LDS authority is perceived to be so wrapped up in it. Therefore, the laying on of hands is indeed huge in Utah & the LDS concentric circle. The rite of passing on authority is LDS' own construction, so don't tell me that I'm making a spurious argument when so much rides on that for LDS.

I can't tell you how many times I've heard an LDS missionary talk with pride about his priesthood authority, and either in subtle or more open ways point out that he perceives a vacuum of authority within "Christendom."

I mean, just look, for example, at how many times in this thread alone you bring up the question of how/where we're authorized to several posters. It's even in your blood!

The chain of authority within the LDS is huge. How dare you make light of it or downplay it.

287 posted on 05/01/2006 3:09:54 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian; restornu

>>>>Since Authority begins with the creator who cares where his genealogy goes? Did
>>>>your dad have to get permission from Adam to spank you? This is a spurious
>>>>argument at best, who’s only purpose is to muddy the waters with a Mormon belief
>>>>that we are the literal son’s and Daughters of God.

>>LDS are the ones who make the huge deal out of having a priesthood.

Because having authority makes a big difference

Mark 13: 34 For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.

Luke 9 1 – 2 ( http://scriptures.lds.org/luke/9 )
1 THEN he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.


2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.

Note, he sent those who were set apart and who had been granted authority, not the multitude who was listening, not any who read this.

>>And this is because LDS authority is perceived to be so wrapped up in it. Therefore,
>>the laying on of hands is indeed huge in Utah & the LDS concentric circle. The rite of
>>passing on authority is LDS' own construction, so don't tell me that I'm making a
>>spurious argument when so much rides on that for LDS.

Were the apostles ordained? Was it by the laying on of hands? (Yes and Yes)

Articles of Faith #5 ( http://scriptures.lds.org/a_of_f/1/5#5 )
We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.

>>I can't tell you how many times I've heard an LDS missionary talk with pride about his
>>priesthood authority, and either in subtle or more open ways point out that he
>>perceives a vacuum of authority within "Christendom."
And he is right, you all claim, god told the apostles this”” and then left, that’s the last word, don’t tell me any more, I’ve got enough (Effectively shutting off revelation because you won’t listen to him whom you profess to be following)

>>I mean, just look, for example, at how many times in this thread alone you bring up the
>>question of how/where we're authorized to several posters. It's even in your blood!

Yep, that’s because it’s important to have authority to act in god’s name or anybody could say “I’m a believer, follow me” (oops, that’s what you believe, isn’t it, sorry)

>>The chain of authority within the LDS is huge. How dare you make light of it or
>>downplay it.

I’m not down playing it, it starts with the Creator, If I create you, I am in authority over you (lest I un-create you). So that’s where authority starts. (This isn’t even theology, merely logic).

restornu, thought you'd enjoy this post, thoughts on authority starting with the creator?


346 posted on 05/05/2006 6:37:59 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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