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Billy Graham's Disobedience to the Word of God
Way of Life ^ | Not sure | David Cloud

Posted on 04/25/2006 6:19:21 PM PDT by Full Court

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To: Full Court
Thanks for posting this -- my respect for Billy Graham has grown after reading some of those old quotes of his. In contrast to the drama-queen author (Cloud), Graham shows maturity, civility, decency, and just plain good horse sense.
241 posted on 04/26/2006 10:41:37 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Rightly Biased

Aren't you being just a little judgemental of
Bill Clinton? Do you KNOW for a fact that he is not saved?


242 posted on 04/26/2006 10:44:32 AM PDT by WKB (Science Fiction= Any science that omits God.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I do not believe that Graham believes that as you stated it.

He may believe that other faiths people can experience Salvation by meeting Christ at their moment of death.

The Bible is somewhat moot on that point.

The Bible does say that HE WHO SEEKS GOD [earnestly etc] WILL FIND HIM.

None of us have it as all figured out as we might think.

Certainly Scripture is clear that every knee shall bow, every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is The Lord of Lords and King of Kings.

And I'm confident Graham believes that AND THAT SALVATION IS VIA CHRIST ALONE.


243 posted on 04/26/2006 10:45:39 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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To: Alex Murphy

Thanks for the clarification.


244 posted on 04/26/2006 10:46:33 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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To: Full Court

Hey isn't that guy in the picture standing the one that was sued over his homosexual advances to one of his employees?


245 posted on 04/26/2006 10:47:53 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: WKB

I Guess B.C. is a better friend to him than the Lord. Pity!

Long ago Billy Graham began compromising and expecting good results from his sin.


246 posted on 04/26/2006 10:48:41 AM PDT by TFMcGuire (Either you are an American, or you are a liberal)
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To: WKB

No I do not know.

The only ones that really do know is WJBC and Father God Himself.

But I according to James and Paul can have a pretty good idea of ones salvation by the fruit produced.

And why could you call me judgemental of WJBC? You are the one that said he wouldn't speak out against Homosexuality and Abortion, and Rev. Graham should have made him.


247 posted on 04/26/2006 10:48:47 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Valor is a Gift.Those having it never know for sure whether they have it till the test comes)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; All

I certainly have invited more exhortation and correction by my brothers and sisters in The Lord than anyone I know.

Have submitted more to same than about anyone I know.

Have repented of plenty of mistaken notions and actions.

Am a flawed person in a flawed world saved by The Blood of The Lamb.

I do not presume to know what Graham meant in the statements selected.

I prefer to judge him by his fruit and by the Very Biblical statements he has made far more than the questionable ones.

I suspect God Almighty will be far more generous toward Graham than the Nepal Missionary is.

God, The Father God I know, is looking for Biblical justifications to save folks He loves, NOT Biblical excuses to damn them.

I'm quite confident Graham's Salvation is secure in Jesus--that He has committed Himself to The Lord WHO IS the Author and Finisher of Graham's faith regardless of what the onlookers think.


248 posted on 04/26/2006 10:50:10 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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To: petitfour

I have always heard that as well

But I also know that many on that day will say "Lord Lord and Jesus will say depart for I never knew you."


249 posted on 04/26/2006 10:50:56 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Valor is a Gift.Those having it never know for sure whether they have it till the test comes)
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To: petitfour

I recall a quote from the Wall St Journal about 10 yrs ago. A group of Baptist ministers visited with Clinton and Gore, both C and G So. Baptists. The minister's comment, "They don't speak the language of Zion".


250 posted on 04/26/2006 10:51:59 AM PDT by Upbeat
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To: xzins

AMEN!

That's the Graham that I've listened to so many times.

Authentic Graham. Authentic Bible. Authentic Salvation via Christ and His Blood alone.


251 posted on 04/26/2006 10:52:04 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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To: petitfour
I have my doubts that BC is saved but
I am not strong enough to declare it
the Internet.
He went to FBC of Little Rock and carried a HUGE Bible during Monicagate
is all I know about his church history.
.
252 posted on 04/26/2006 10:52:21 AM PDT by WKB (Science Fiction= Any science that omits God.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

VERY WELL PUT!

THX.
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Sometimes it hits me like a ton of bricks and I kneel down and say, "O God, I am so sorry."


253 posted on 04/26/2006 10:53:30 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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To: blue-duncan
What do you want to be when you grow up?

I wanna be a rock star
But, I ain’t got what it takes
The drive and the determination
And the lucky breaks
I wanna be a rock star
But, I ain’t got the face
I wanna be a rock star
But, I ain’t got what it takes

Seeing my face up on the TV
Hearing my songs on the radio
People waiting all day in line to see me
Doing my pose for Rolling Stone

Well, it’s alright, yeah it’s alright

Living lifestyles of the rich and famous
Turning all heads in the music scene
Flying in my own jet plane to Vegas
Riding in a big black limousine

Well, it’s alright, yeah it’s alright

No, I ain’t got nothing
But, to you I’m something
Something so much more


254 posted on 04/26/2006 10:54:29 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: swmobuffalo

He has intimated a number of times that he has spoken quite forcefully and searchingly with the heart of The Gospel to such high and mighty people.

Thanks for your kind words.

I agree.


255 posted on 04/26/2006 10:56:35 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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To: P-Marlowe

What matters in his ministry is what he says when he walks up the pulpit and every sermon I've heard him preach is pretty much nothing but gospel truth.

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AMEN!


256 posted on 04/26/2006 10:57:54 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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To: WKB

That's about all I know as well. And he went to church with Hillary a bunch of times in DC. (a Methodist church, I believe.)


257 posted on 04/26/2006 10:58:36 AM PDT by petitfour ("Seek the Lord and live.")
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To: TFMcGuire

I don't believe Billy Graham has compromised an essential of The Gospel one shred his entire life in either thought, word or deed.

His integrity, faithfulness to his Lord and his declarations of Biblical Truth are without peer.

God is well able to judge all the details. The above facts are sufficient, for me.


258 posted on 04/26/2006 11:01:10 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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To: Quix

If I went to a BG crusade, what would he tell me to do to insure salvation? I attended a BG crusade in the early 1970s when I was a wee little girl. I don't think I've ever watched more than a minute of a BG crusade on tv, and the only times I recall seeing him on tv, he was at funerals of politicians or some such.


259 posted on 04/26/2006 11:02:27 AM PDT by petitfour ("Seek the Lord and live.")
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To: Full Court

But it wasn't immorality that caused the missionary to write the areas where Graham compromised.
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I have begun to think that Bro Cloud strained at gnats and swallowed cammels so much that he bordered or crossed over into a wholesale UNBiblical and immoral attack on Graham.


260 posted on 04/26/2006 11:09:27 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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