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So… Is it 2006 A.D. or 2006 C.E.?
The Loft ^ | Bob Eberle

Posted on 04/22/2006 10:42:37 AM PDT by Iam1ru1-2

In yet another measure to remove Christian references from society, not even the calendar year designation is safe. Whether you view it as political correctness run amok or part of the ongoing purge of all things Christian, some organizations including the Kentucky Board of Education are beginning to replace A.D. (anno Domini) with C.E. (common era). Even though the beginning of the historical dating system is the birth of Christ, I guess some feel that using C.E. will help neutralize that fact. What will people think of next???

As noted in the story Kentucky Education Officials Blasted for Modernizing Historical Dating System, the Kentucky Board of Education is under fire for approving a new, more contemporary system of describing historical dates in its public school curriculum.

Although the school board will also continue to use A.D. and B.C., “the board members decided to supplement the traditional dating method with C.E. or ‘common era’ and B.C.E., which stands for ‘before the common era.’

The Board’s vote means the new dating system will appear throughout Kentucky’s curriculum and other materials used by educators across the state. This method of describing historical eras is already being included in textbooks across the United States, in what some opponents see as an effort to replace the birth of Christ as the dividing point in history.

The move has drawn reaction from Martin Cothran who serves as the senior policy analyst for the Family Foundation of Kentucky. Cothran fears that organizations like the ACLU will soon jump on the bandwagon, and we’ll all be hearing about cases where using A.D. and B.C. are considered unconstitutional by the courts.

We put this on the same level with the whole war on Christmas and the idea that we can’t call it Christmas anymore [but] have to call it the winter holiday or the winter solstice holiday,” Cothran explains. This kind of substitution of terms associated with or derived from Christianity is simply a means of “hiding our cultural heritage from ourselves,” Cothran contends.

According to Wikipedia, the term “common era” is growing in usage. The fact that the Western calendar is being used more as a global standard is cited by Wikipedia as a reason that dates “should be religiously and culturally neutral out of consideration for those cultures compelled to use it out of necessity.”

Once again, it seems to me that people are either overtly trying to purge Christian references from society or they are being driven by fear of offending some group even if the offense does not exist. How many times have leaders of American Indian tribes stepped forward and said that usage of their names on sports teams does not offend them, and yet the “Sensitivity Police” still file lawsuits demanding the names be changed. In fact, the only group whose concerns seem to go unnoticed are the vast majority of people who are not offended by the historical dating system and only take offense when another attempt is made to remove a Christian reference.

What is really crazy is the following bullet item listed in the “support” section on Wikipedia under “common era”: “Dating years according to Christian theology has the potential to be culturally divisive in worldwide use.”

Don’t people realize that changing from A.D. to C.E. doesn’t change the fact that the system is still based on, to use their words, “dating years according to Christian theology?” If they are so offended by the dating system, why not rename 2006 as Year 1 and start over? The fact is that our system is based on Christ’s birth, and these moves to change from A.D. to C.E. are feeble attempts to mask the true meaning of the calendar. Perhaps these groups should spend less time offending Christians and more time on issues that are important.


TOPICS: Current Events; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: christophobia; commonera; theophobia; tolerantleft

1 posted on 04/22/2006 10:42:38 AM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Why not name this year 1 A.C. (Anti-Christ)


2 posted on 04/22/2006 10:52:45 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Well, if it's "C.E.", it's gotta mean "Christian Era", right?


4 posted on 04/22/2006 11:50:41 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: Iam1ru1-2
Don’t people realize that changing from A.D. to C.E. doesn't change the fact that the system is still based on, to use their words, “dating years according to Christian theology?” If they are so offended by the dating system, why not rename 2006 as Year 1 and start over?

Excellent point which I'll definitely remember.

5 posted on 04/22/2006 11:54:30 AM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Anno Domini Bump


6 posted on 04/22/2006 11:58:13 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
Don’t people realize that changing from A.D. to C.E. doesn't change the fact that the system is still based on, to use their words, “dating years according to Christian theology?” If they are so offended by the dating system, why not rename 2006 as Year 1 and start over?

Excellent point which I'll definitely remember.

7 posted on 04/22/2006 11:58:42 AM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618

Cool...double post, with an interval!


8 posted on 04/22/2006 12:00:38 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Iam1ru1-2

The only reason it is "common" is that it was originally thought to reflect the years since the birth of Jesus. Sort of like replacing "meter" with "C.L." (Common Length).


9 posted on 04/22/2006 1:23:52 PM PDT by miketheprof
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"The only reason it is "common" is that it was originally thought to reflect the years since the birth of Jesus. Sort of like replacing "meter" with "C.L." (Common Length)."

Then we should give credit where credit is due. The whole calendar system throughout the world is based on the birth of Jesus Christ, so why not acknowledge that fact. Common Era is not common to Budhists, Shintoists, Hindus, Mulims, Israelis, or atheists. It's only common to the Christian world where the predominant religion was Christianity. It is used throughout the world because commerce was dominated by Christian nations, and continues to be used today as a reference point that everyone can use, but it was based on the birth of Jesus Christ, a person who was born of lowly parents, raised in obscurity until His time came to reveal Himself to mankind. He was not a political leader, an author, a man of nobility, or rich, but through his ministry, he changed the world - even the calendar which every nation on Earth uses - designating his birth, and dividing that calendar to Before Christ, and The Year of Our LORD - Anno Dominum. No other person on Earth with a history of low birth (born is a feeding trough) became so famous as Jesus Christ - because He IS whom He claimed to be - "The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world" which John the Baptist proclaimed when he saw the Savior for the first time.

10 posted on 04/22/2006 1:54:53 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2

How silly. Even my left leaning history professor refused to switch to C.E.


11 posted on 04/22/2006 2:36:36 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: Iam1ru1-2

When our sons were in grade school and various teachers would try to pull the C.E. garbage on their classes, I marched them into their teacher's office and told the teacher in front of them that if my kids ever put C.E. on a piece of homework, I would tear it up and return it to the teacher myself with a corrected copy using A.D. and B.C.

I encourage all parents to do the same.


12 posted on 04/22/2006 3:09:51 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Only a problem for a short while.

The Islamic crowd will soon make sure we are all the same sheet of music.


13 posted on 04/22/2006 3:15:48 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Sharia. Coming to a town near you.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

If you were a neener, I'd give you a medal.


14 posted on 04/22/2006 3:27:39 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: fishtank
Well, if it's "C.E.", it's gotta mean "Christian Era", right?

I rmemeber asking my grandmother that in the 1970's, "what does BCE and CE mean." she said, "Before Christian Era and Christan Era."
15 posted on 04/22/2006 3:29:35 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Greystone, I'll miss you (5-12-2001 - 4-15-2006) RIP little buddy.)
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To: P-Marlowe
If you were a neener, I'd give you a medal.

(((blush)))

Money and power is all I ask.

16 posted on 04/22/2006 4:05:09 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

It's actually 5766.


17 posted on 04/22/2006 6:10:23 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Iam1ru1-2
So… Is it 2006 A.D. or 2006 C.E.?

2006CE.

Because religious illiterates have forgotten it should read AD2006, not 2006AD.

18 posted on 04/22/2006 6:49:18 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

We'll know when we get to Heaven(those of us who make it there).


19 posted on 04/25/2006 10:21:03 PM PDT by LifeOrGoods? (God is not a God of fear, but of power, love and a sane mind.)
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