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To: DouglasKC

I'm quite familiar with WWCG. I live not far from what used to be their college campus. And a close friend of mine went through the break-up and fragmentation of the church. Armstrong basically put his own spin on the old debate of how jewish should Christianty be? It's an attractive formulation.

You realize, no, likely you don't, that the debate on how "jewish" christianity should be was a major one in the decades after Christ's crucifixion.

It was thought, or hoped, by many apostles that Judaism would become Judaism with Christ. However, the bulk of jews did not follow, and even threw out the Christian ministers. Now what were they to be?

So, jewish or gentile, how much or how little was a decision and a turning point for Christianity. It could no longer be Judaism with Christ as it was when He was alive.

Orthodoxy can be seen as answering this question - among others including the nature of Christ in monotheism.

Some wish to go back to that time, when Christ was a jew and Christians were observant jews who believed in Christ.

But you cannot go back, cannot freeze time and pretend the decision doesn't exist. Hence I call them "The Church of the Time Warp."

To answer your question: The group I follow is called the Catholic Church and it was started by Jesus of Nazareth.


45 posted on 04/15/2006 1:44:58 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr
You realize, no, likely you don't, that the debate on how "jewish" christianity should be was a major one in the decades after Christ's crucifixion.

Oh yes, I'm pretty familiar with the reasoning behind why these decisions were made. I don't agree with them.

It was thought, or hoped, by many apostles that Judaism would become Judaism with Christ. However, the bulk of jews did not follow, and even threw out the Christian ministers. Now what were they to be?

I'm afraid that you're under the impression that I'm advocating Judaism. I think you may even be under the impression that Judaism today adheres to scripture more than tradition.

Orthodoxy can be seen as answering this question - among others including the nature of Christ in monotheism.

Unfortunately orthodoxy went to far.

Some wish to go back to that time, when Christ was a jew and Christians were observant jews who believed in Christ. But you cannot go back, cannot freeze time and pretend the decision doesn't exist. Hence I call them "The Church of the Time Warp."

Nonsense. Rome doesn't have a monopoly on God or how God is worshipped. Scripture shows how God wants to be worshipped.

To answer your question: The group I follow is called the Catholic Church and it was started by Jesus of Nazareth.

My usual practice is not to engage in debate with those who claim membership in the Catholic church. We have no common ground. I believe that God speaks to his people through scripture. My understanding is that tradition can supercede scripture in the Catholic church. I know it has on the sabbath issue. In other words tradition plays as much a part in what you believe as scripture does. Tradition is great, but when it disagrees with scripture I'm sticking with scripture.

47 posted on 04/15/2006 6:26:06 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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