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Cardinal Arinze's Mass Etiquette 101
WITL ^ | April 8, 2006 | Rocco Palmo

Posted on 04/08/2006 3:24:20 PM PDT by NYer

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To: sockmonkey

I suggest you take a look at the vestments worn during the 17th and 18th centuries. Quite "gaudy" all of them. It was the baroque style. And I will take "Anglican." beats the "hip' garments I saw in the '70s.


21 posted on 04/10/2006 6:47:32 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: NYer

Putting the tabernacle behind the altar does help, or did in the German church I was in But, then, Germans don't chatter even in restaurants.


22 posted on 04/10/2006 6:49:42 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: SAMS

**people chattering all around **

Has your pastor done some educating, letting people know that they are in the presence of Jesus Christ, Himself?

Should get the chattering subdued or stopped.

And people need to be reminded again and again and again and again ad infinitum.


23 posted on 04/10/2006 8:03:17 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: SAMS

Why don't you have a hospitality ministry of at least four or five persons for each Mass that does the greeting of parishioners as they arrive? (, get out extra chairs if needed, take up the collection, bring up the gifts, hand out the bulletins after Mass, etc.)

Ask your pastor if you could help form one.


24 posted on 04/10/2006 8:06:24 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer
Nigerian Cardinal Francis Arinze called on priests to restore tabernacles to central positions in churches

Let's roll!

25 posted on 04/10/2006 8:25:29 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: sockmonkey

I like that mitre actually.


26 posted on 04/10/2006 10:27:40 AM PDT by Romish_Papist (St. Jude, pray for my lost cause. St. Rita, pray for my impossible situation.)
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To: RobbyS
I suggest you take a look at the vestments worn during the 17th and 18th centuries.

Actually, I know some clerics who have, and use vestments from that period. The ones I have seen are from France. They are gorgeous, not gaudy. They are quite ornate, and have a lot of embellishment on them..Also, they weigh a ton.

27 posted on 04/10/2006 12:07:28 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: choirboy; NYer

In my parish, it had devolved to 'lounge music', ala Bill Murray in some cheesy SNL lounge act skit, meant to make us laugh!, or some seedy, off the beaten track Vegas bar (I've never been to Vegas, relying on TV recreations). It is rambling, clangy, and mostly features non-religious musical choices. Our temporary pastor has banned them from playing 'that kind' of music as the after Eucharist meditation - so they quit in protest! For now at least. That same kind of defiant behavior the Cardinal spoke of. They also had permission to sing on the altar, which newer pastors had never challenged, and the girls in the group were known for their 'sleazy' outfits. I think Cardinal Arinze really nailed it. And our temporary pastor is on board, too.


28 posted on 04/10/2006 3:20:24 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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I think Cardinal Arinze really nailed it. And our temporary pastor is on board, too.

May the temporary pastor be made permanent!!

Our temporary pastor has banned them from playing 'that kind' of music as the after Eucharist meditation - so they quit in protest!

Which only supports Cardinal Arinze's contention that it's "all about me". It's not about the choir; it's about reverence and devotion to our Lord, Jesus Christ.

If this 'temporary' pastor is not made 'permanent', and replaced with one who reinstates the protesters, you may want to look around for a different parish.

29 posted on 04/10/2006 4:17:14 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: samiam1972

'Signing' is big locally. Not for the hearing impaired, but put to music (usually pre-recorded) as entertainment for all to enjoy. Liturgical dance was tried. And tried again. Luckily, it fell flat with locals, pun intended.


30 posted on 04/20/2006 11:21:13 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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