Communion "Host" in Dallas Church Grew Fungi, Bacteria Naturally

Texas Catholic ^ | 3-24-06 | Marty Perry

[Petronski]

It teaches us that there are a lot of doctrines in the Catholic Church that are just... not... biblical.

So says you.

[Petronski]

I love that ad. Classic.

[P-Marlowe]

What part of this story do you think tends to establish your claim that transubstatiation did not take place?

I would say that the "fact" that the consecrated host is now being surrounded by and eaten by mold and bacteria would tend to prove that it is not, "in fact", God.

Perhaps it is just the appearance of mold and bacteria? Or is it REALLY mold and bacteria that have overcome and are now consuming the host?

[Romish_Papist]

Good thing we Catholics don't follow Sola Scriptura then. That, of course, is not in the Bible either, ironically enough.

[Petronski]

I would say that you don't understand transubstantiation, though you're quite convinced that you do.

[SoothingDave]

I would say that the "fact" that the consecrated host is now being surrounded by and eaten by mold and bacteria would tend to prove that it is not, "in fact", God.

How is airborne bacteria and its effect on the Host any different from the various fauna that attack the Host in our stomachs? Or, for that matter, your theory of attributing superpowers to the Host would make it indissolvable in normal water. But that's exactly the normal procedure for disposal that was being followed here.

Either you've discovered the Achille's heel of Catholic theology or your theory of the host being impervious to dissoution due to its divinity needs work.

What say you?

SD

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

What I really remember about the 1977 Brother Dominic ad was that it was the first time in three years that I laughed without pain.

I lost 50% of my left lung to a bullet, thus ending my relatively brief career as a cop.

My left lung's name is Eric.

"Eric the lung?"

"No. 'E's a 'alf-lung. 'E 'ad an accident."

[P-Marlowe]

What say you?

I say you are fooling yourself into believing that the wafer is physically anything other than a wafer.

I would normally say that this would be harmless in and of itself, but when you bow down before the wafer and worship it as God, then you have traversed the divide between true Christianity and idolatry.

[Gamecock]

**What a surprise - The wafer was consecrated, but transubstantiation didn't take place. It's still a wafer.**

So "Christ" became moldy? Is that what this means?

[SoothingDave]

I say you are fooling yourself into believing that the wafer is physically anything other than a wafer.

That's you opinion. I am only interested in people understanding what it is that they reject.

Do you think, like Mr. Murphy, that a lab test can disprove transubstantiation?

SD

[murphE]

So "Christ" became moldy? Is that what this means?

It means that The Body of Our Lord was treated rather poorly by this priest. Can you believe it? Surely God, Christ Our Lord, Second Person of the Holy Trinity would never allow His Own Body to be treated in such a way. /sarcasm

[SoothingDave]

See post 26.

SD

[P-Marlowe]

I am only interested in people understanding what it is that they reject.

Is the wafer God?

Do you literally worship what by all appearances is a wafer?

[murphE]

I say you are fooling yourself into believing that the wafer is physically anything other than a wafer.

Christ would say, "This is MY BODY".

Hmmm, what you say, or what Christ says...what to choose...that's a toughie. Thanks for your opinion, but no thanks, I think I'll stick with the words of Our Lord.

but when you bow down before the wafer and worship it as God, then you have traversed the divide between true Christianity and idolatry.

But since Christ Himself has said it is His Body, those who do not adore will have a lot of "splaining" to do at judgment.

[SoothingDave]

Do you think, like Mr. Murphy, that a lab test can disprove transubstantiation?

I asked you first.

SD

[HarleyD]

Is the wafer God? Do you literally worship what by all appearances is a wafer?

What's more astonishing is the people who immediately flocked to the church to see mold growing, thinking it's a miracle. I better not let them know about the back of my refrigerator.

[murphE]

Yeah I know I heard all about "proper procedure" on This Thread, I still think the priest should have consumed the host and not plopped it in a glass of water only to forget about it for a month.

[P-Marlowe]

Christ would say, "This is MY BODY".

He also said he was a door. Do you worship the door to your church?

He also said he was the true vine. Do you bow before grapes?

He also said that he was the good shepherd and that we are sheep. Does that mean that while we appear to be human, we have really been transubstantiated into sheep?

You Catholics seem to take only this one reference literally and you tend to allegorize nearly every other verse in the Bible -- especially those which contradict your peculiar unbliblical doctrines.

[murphE]

Do you literally worship what by all appearances is a wafer?

Yes.

Down in adoration falling,
Lo! the sacred Host we hail,
Lo! oe'r ancient forms departing
Newer rites of grace prevail;
Faith for all defects supplying,
Where the feeble senses fail.

To the everlasting Father,
And the Son Who reigns on high
With the Holy Spirit proceeding
Forth from each eternally,
Be salvation, honor blessing,
Might and endless majesty.
Amen.

It's better in Latin.

Tantum ergo Sacramentum
Veneremur cernui:
Et antiquum documentum
Novo cedat ritui:
Praestet fides supplementum
Sensuum defectui.

Genitori, Genitoque
Laus et iubilatio,
Salus, honor, virtus quoque
Sit et benedictio:
Procedenti ab utroque
Compar sit laudatio.
Amen.

[P-Marlowe]

Do you think, like Mr. Murphy, that a lab test can disprove transubstantiation? I asked you first.

I don't need a lab test to disprove transubstantiation. The taste test works well enough.

You tell me, what does it taste like? Human flesh or baked wheat?