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Writing American Theocracy
TPM ^ | 3/20/2006 | Kevin Phillips

Posted on 03/20/2006 6:59:05 PM PST by Unam Sanctam

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To: Unam Sanctam
I've never heard of the people you mention, and I very much doubt they are at all representative of the vast majority of traditional Christian believers in this country, who I believe support our democratic Constitution and liberties.

Gary deMar is a leader in the Christian Reconstruction movement. One of Phillips's primary tragets in his book is the CR movement. You initiated a thread criticizing Phillips; now you say you are ignorant of much of what he wrote about. deMar was recently interviewed in fact, on the American Family Association radio netrwork, where the president of AFA called him one of the best writers out there in the Christian community and thinkers.

If you haven't a clue about what Phillips was writing about, why did you initiate a thread about his book? Have you read it?

21 posted on 03/27/2006 5:13:49 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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I read the article, and in that article, Mr. Phillips was not criticizing individual radicals, but traditional Christian believers generally. To wit:

First, radical religion – this encompasses everything from the Pat Robertson-Jerry Falwell types to the attacks on medicine and science and the Left Behind books with their End Times and Armageddon scenarios... After George W. Bush narrowly won a second term in 2004, which meant four more years of Religious Right power

The above language basically calls mainstream figures like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell as well as President Bush theocrats. That is simply a ridiculous charge and Mr. Phillips should be ashamed of himself, and you too if you are doing so.

22 posted on 03/27/2006 5:26:15 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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You also did not address any of my other queries or responses.


23 posted on 03/27/2006 5:27:44 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
You also did not address any of my other queries or responses.

You mean, the personal attack? I ignored it. Would you prefer I answered in kind?

24 posted on 03/27/2006 5:33:33 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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No. Please tell me if you believe that the majority of traditional Christian believers wish to impose a theocratic government a la Iran or the Taliban. Please also tell me precisely when and where in our two hundred year history there was a theocratic government in the United States. Please be precise. If you cannot come with anything, then the claim that traditional Christian believers in general, merely by participating in politics are a danger, is completely baseless.


25 posted on 03/27/2006 5:38:50 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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Please explain exactly how it is, that for two hundred years, a government run by traditional Christian believers with precisely the religious beliefs you find so threatening, did not overturn Constitutional liberties or establish a theocracy.


26 posted on 03/27/2006 5:41:44 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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Liquor Officer Robertson is a fraud and a huckster who sidelines as a lunatic. His and Falwell's statements about 9/11 should put both of them beyond the Pale for any patriotic American. Mainstream? Surely you jest!

Attacks on medicine and science are not 'traditional Christian' in any sense I recognize, and I grew up in as conservative a Catholic family as you could find. I won't criticize Left Behind, because entertainment is entertainment; I enjoy the Flashman novels, but I'd hate it to be thought I endorse his philosophy of life. But a large part of the society believing in imminent Armageddon is scary.

27 posted on 03/27/2006 5:53:08 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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Please tell me if you believe that the majority of traditional Christian believers wish to impose a theocratic government a la Iran or the Taliban.

First you'll have to define for me who and who isn't a 'traditional Christian believer'.

Please also tell me precisely when and where in our two hundred year history there was a theocratic government in the United States. Please be precise.

Utah territory, prior to statehood. They went so far as to massacre non-Mormon American citizens. Is that theocratic enough?

28 posted on 03/27/2006 6:17:11 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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Let me know if you recommend it as a read; I have so many things waiting for my attention at the moment, I was hoping it would be enough that I saw his interview on C-SPAN this weekend (with Grover Norquist interviewing him!).


29 posted on 03/28/2006 2:54:25 AM PST by linda_22003
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Bought the book yesterday and looking forward to it. I too had to laugh at the claims on this thread that he is a "leftist".


30 posted on 03/28/2006 9:21:08 AM PST by LongsforReagan (Dick Cheney is the best elected official in this country. Period.)
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