Posted on 03/19/2006 6:25:15 PM PST by whispering out loud
This is something God showed me through the scriptures, which has really helped me to understand who God is, in all of is person. Firstly we know that God is three in his manifestation through God the Father, Jesus the Son, the Holy Spirit. We also know that God is one, Jesus said in his word “The Father and I are one”, He also said, “If you’ve seen me, you’ve also seen my father who is in heaven”. So God is three, and God is one, how can this be?
God helped me to understand this first by helping me understand that man is a three fold being, being body mind and spirit. Our mind being the controlling unit, it is our mind that bids us to do the things we do. Our body is the physical action part of our being we can do no physical action apart from our bodies, no mater how hard our mind wills it. Our spirit is our essence, it is the eternal part of us, as well as the part that ministers to and comforts others. Each of these three parts having their own individual functions, work together to accomplish the same goal.
Secondly God helped me to remember that we are created in the image and likeness of this same God. That being said God the Father is the mind, “the controlling unit” God (the trinity) does nothing apart from the will of the Father, see John 5:30, and Matt 26:42. Just as God the Father is the mind, Jesus is the body. He is the action part of God no physical action took place ever without Him. Even in creation he was present, in John chapter 1 He was called the word, and it was said that nothing was created without him. In Genesis and the creation account, God spoke the world into existence we speak words. Jesus was the words God spoke in the creation of the world making him the action part of creation. Jesus was also the action part of salvation apart from his death and resurrection we would have no hope of salvation. The Holy Spirit is somewhat self explanatory, he is the essence of God Jesus called him the comforter. Also present in the creation, Genesis 1:2 says, “The spirit of God moved upon the faces of the waters”.
Putting this together, The Trinity of God is three parts of one God, each having their own function yet working together to complete one divine purpose. The trinity was present in creation in all of its members, and the trinity is in full effect today. I hope this helps you as much as it helped me when God showed me. Just a little extra something for you, and this one’s free. We know that God cannot lie it is against His nature, but some food for thought. God’s word is so powerful that even if He could lie, the moment it left his lips, it would become truth. So even if he could lie, he still couldn’t lie.
Beautiful. :)
Several times throughout the scriptures, Christ prayed to the Father. I would submit to you, that the Father, Spirit and Jesus, are three parts of the same Deity, not necessarily three jobs. Had you read my whole post you would have seen the reasoning for this pattern of thought, as well as the scriptural backing.
Jesus, Jehovah and the Holy Spirit are three separate entities that always work in perfect union. While the word "Trinity" is not in the New Testament, the concept is. The best place to see it is in Matthew 3:16-17. The setting is the baptism of Jesus. Notice how all three entities are manifested at the same time but in three different places. Jesus is coming up out of the water, the Holy Spirity is descending as a dove, and Jehovah is speaking from heaven.
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When God speaks, whatever it is comes to pass. Note in Genesis..."and God said" is repeated many times, why, to alert us to the fact that when He says something, it happens. The silliest example would be to say...if God said there was a second Tuesday in the week, we would be changing our calendars.
yes, this is exactly what makes my last statement true, even if it wasn't against his nature to lie, he still could not lie due to the power of his word.
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Hi tenn2005! pardon me wilst I make a few comments.
You said **Notice how all three entities are manifested at the same time but in three different places. Jesus is coming up out of the water, the Holy Spirity is descending as a dove, and Jehovah is speaking from heaven.**
It is a small thing for one omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent Spirit of God (John 4:23,24) to do, not 1, not 2, not 3, but countless operations..at..the..same..time.
The Christ was fully man, but also God, because he was filled with the only God, "....for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. The Father loveth the Son, and hath given (I repeat: g i v e n ! ) ALL THINGS into his hands." John 3:34,35
"For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily." Col. 2:9
A television has a body (the unit itself), a visual sign from out of thin air (on the screen), and a voice from out of thin air (on the speaker), but the electricity is the SOURCE of the power.
Who was healing the sick? God was.
Who was feeding the multitudes? God was.
Who was raising the dead? God was.
That's how the Christ died. The Father had left his body so he COULD die ("My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?). The Almighty God that fed multitudes, could have sustained that mortally wounded body (that had a man's soul in it) indefinitely.
The Godhead topic is one I really enjoy discussing.
I am glad that you enjoy discussing the trinity. I am not Catholic and agree with very little that they teach. However, in the matter of the trinity I believe that they may be correct.
Genesis 1:1 says "In the beginning God..." The word used here for God is Elohim. The word is plural. In Genesis 1:26 God said, "let us (pl) make man in our (pl) image." The message here us clearly that God is a more than one.
In Matthew 28:19 Jesus commands the apostles to baptise in the name of "The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. All of these references indicate that God is a triumvirate.
If Jesus is G-d, why is he so bad at math? Shouldn't he have said two-thirds? :-\
Heck, water has three manifestation: liquid, solid, and gas.
Don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain.
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More insane dribble.
Someone needs help.
BTW, by calling GtF the controlling unit of the trininty aren't you negating the part of the creed that says that they are co-equal? Or is it tri equal?
Whatever, the trinity is a modern resurrection of Baal worship.
I can easily explain God's relationship to Jesus and Jesus' relationship to us with terms straight from the Bible and backed up solidly with quoted scripture.
To explain the trinity, they must use non biblical terms that require twisting scriptures and ignoring others.
Jesus was either a man who came entirely in the flesh or he wasn't. The Bible says he was. Trinitarians say he wasn't.
But not at the same time. They are not co equal or co eternal.
Jesus had a genesis ... a beginning at birth.
But not at the same time. They are not co equal or co eternal.
I think you missed my point. It was in the first sentence of my post. No matter.
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