[Rytwyng]

Stuff like this makes the Tiber seem very cold indeed.

BTW, my direct male-line ancestor escaped the St. Bartholomew's Massacre and fled to Scotland.

[Lion in Winter]

I had one of those too. Last name Lyon....

[Theoden]

My Catholic male-line ancestors were not apart of this, they were too busy dealing with the severe persecution they faced in their own country of Ireland, where they were forbidden to speak their native tongue of Gaelic, forbidden to go to their Catholic churches, forbidden from owning property or holding public office, forbidden from getting an education, being starved, and dealing with the usual thefts, rapes, and murder.

If this makes the Tiber seem cold, one can only wonder at how frigid the Thames river is!

[lastchance]

I doubt any Protestant would consider the Albigenese or the Waldenese (sp) brothers of the Reformation. Both were groups of Gnostic heretics whose beliefs would be rejected by Protestants.