[Theoden]

My Catholic male-line ancestors were not apart of this, they were too busy dealing with the severe persecution they faced in their own country of Ireland, where they were forbidden to speak their native tongue of Gaelic, forbidden to go to their Catholic churches, forbidden from owning property or holding public office, forbidden from getting an education, being starved, and dealing with the usual thefts, rapes, and murder.

If this makes the Tiber seem cold, one can only wonder at how frigid the Thames river is!

[Rytwyng]

My Catholic male-line ancestors were not apart of this, they were too busy dealing with the severe persecution they faced in their own country of Ireland, where they were forbidden to speak their native tongue of Gaelic, forbidden to go to their Catholic churches, forbidden from owning property or holding public office, forbidden from getting an education, being starved, and dealing with the usual thefts, rapes, and murder.

Agus mise fein. My maternal ancestry is Irish Catholic. I'm familiar with all this history. It's chilling to realize that my paternal Scot/Huguenot "Orange" and my maternal "Green" ancestors once literally tried to wipe each other out. All while being manipulated by the English. *sigh*

If this makes the Tiber seem cold, one can only wonder at how frigid the Thames river is!

The Thames is polluted with sodomite sewage. It's not even up for consideration.