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1 posted on 03/15/2006 11:50:32 AM PST by sionnsar
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2 posted on 03/15/2006 11:51:19 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Libs: Celebrate MY diversity! | Iran Azadi 2006)
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To: sionnsar
In addition to being a raving lunatic, MattyBoy is also a liar:

Since I am not Catholic, I don't know the significance of these images or whether they have any particular significance at all.

I guess they wiped his brain when he left the Catholic priesthood!

He was ordained a Roman Catholic priest in 1967. He received Masters Degrees in both philosophy and theology from Aquinas Institute, and later earned a Ph.D. in spirituality, summa cum laude, from the Institut Catholique de Paris. Due to his controversial teachings, he was censured by the Vatican in 1989 and forbidden to teach, and later dismissed from the Dominican order. He was later received as an Episcopal priest by Bishop William Swing of the Episcopal Diocese of California.

3 posted on 03/15/2006 11:56:03 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: sionnsar

Where to begin... my head is spinning. How clueless can a clergyman be?


4 posted on 03/15/2006 11:57:19 AM PST by Nihil Obstat
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To: sionnsar

He's smoking better stuff than I am.


6 posted on 03/15/2006 12:13:23 PM PST by RonF
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To: sionnsar
Compassion knows when enough is enough

So, does this mean that Matthew isn't compassionate? Because he crossed the "Enough is enough" line in about, oh, say, the 2nd paragraph?

7 posted on 03/15/2006 12:15:48 PM PST by RonF
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To: sionnsar

He was definitely on the killer weed when writing this stuff. The Black Madonna is a peice of ART! Art doesn't HAVE to be a perfect likeness. Else all madonnas would look like a middle eastern woman, right?


8 posted on 03/15/2006 12:53:56 PM PST by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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The Black Madonna, the Great Mother, is not homophobic. She welcomes the diversity of sexual preferences that are also part of creation, human and more than human.... Because the Black Madonna is the goddess that dwells deeply and darkly within all beings, ourselves included, she brings with her our capacity for compassion.

The above is what happens when someone loses the faith and then perverts his old religion.

10 posted on 03/15/2006 12:59:22 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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The Black Madonna calls us to cosmology, a sense of the whole of space and time. Because she is dark and leads us into the dark, the Black Madonna is also cosmic. She is the great cosmic Mother on whose lap all creation exists. The universe itself is embraced and mothered by her. She yanks us out of our anthropocentrism and back into a state of honoring all our relations. She ushers in an era of cosmology, of our relationship to the whole (“kosmos” means whole in Greek) instead of just parts, be they nation parts or ethnic parts or religious parts or private parts. She pulls us out of the Newtonian parts-based relation to self and the world—out of our tribalism—into a relationship to the whole again. Since we are indeed inheriting a new cosmology in our time, a new “Universe Story”, the timing of the Black Madonna’s return could not be more fortuituous. She brings a blessing of the new cosmology, a sense of the sacred, to the task of educating our species in a new universe story.

ROFLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! What else is there to say? You know the sad thing was there was not much catechesis done in my old ECUSA parish on the classical articles of faith. But, boy, did 'Ol Matt Fox sure get quoted quite a lot. And the goddess worshipers lapped it all up.

13 posted on 03/15/2006 1:20:58 PM PST by Carolina
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Did I happen to mention that Matt Fox is still an Episcopal clergyman?

My (former) United Methodist congregation was promoting a "Bible Study" using Fox's Coming of the Cosmic Christ years ago. It was one of the biggest reasons why I left the UMC and have never looked back.

14 posted on 03/15/2006 5:53:15 PM PST by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:5)
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From Our Lady's Warrios>Dissent>Speakers and Authors

Theology Incompatible with the Catholic Faith
 
Matthew Fox Author of the book "Creation Spirituality" and the founder of a movement with the same name, he was investigated by the Vatican and subsequently dismissed from the Dominican Order in 1993. Creation Spirituality has 10 Principles which replace the 10 Commandments, among which are claims of "Divinity is as much Mother as Father" and "That we experience that the Divine is in all things and all things are in the Divine (Panentheism)." Panentheism is an old heresy which has been resurrected in New Age thought. He has "Techno-Cosmic Masses" which "integrates live music, electronica, multi-media imagery and eastern and indigenous spiritual elements to create a multi-cultural, intergenerational and ecumenical form of worship." The real Catholic Mass makes Jesus Christ present in His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity. Fox claims that Christianity has been spiritually destitute ever since St. Augustine came up with the doctrine of original sin. (Friends of Creation Spirituality is also part of Call to Action's Catholic Organizations for Renewal).

Public Supporters of Dissident Organizations

Matthew Fox Supporter of Catholic Organizations for Renewal (Friends of Creation Spirituality).

18 posted on 03/15/2006 10:58:15 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: sionnsar

Why do those who hate Christ so much pretend to be Christian? That is what always confuses me. This guy would be much more comfortable in a coven rather than a church.

I will pray for his soul, and those he is leading astray.


20 posted on 03/16/2006 6:05:47 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: sionnsar
Where to begin, where to begin?

Matthew Fox and John Shelby Spong are both far Left Episcopal clergymen (though I thought Fox was Catholic). Spong worships modern science and rationalism (Copernicus, et al) and regards Third World chr*stians as savages barely out of animism. Fox despises modern science and rationalism as much as he despises Biblical Fundamentalism (which apparently rejects modern science and rationalism for the "wrong reasons").

Do you suppose Fox and Spong have ever met? (I'm still waiting for Darwin and the "indigenous pipples" to discover each other!)

Once again a childish worship of "the other" (no different from a childish antipathy to it) shows itself. Fox looks at "people of color" (perhaps in a COGIC church somewhere in a swamp in the Mississippi Delta) and sees profound feminist/socialist/pagan/homophilic earth people, even though they are handling snakes, speaking in tongues, and interpreting Genesis literally. I don't blame Black Fundamentalists for taking advantage of such a looney, but it does bother me that they never seem to have anything to say about such pagan thought put forward in their name.

21 posted on 03/16/2006 6:40:20 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vehaluchot ma`asei- 'Eloqim heimmah, vehamikhtav mikhtav-'Eloqim hu'.)
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