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Did Pope Perform Miracle After His Death?
washingtonpost.com ^ | NICOLE WINFIELD

Posted on 03/14/2006 12:47:42 PM PST by tbird5

OME -- The sudden recovery of a young French nun suffering from Parkinson's disease is at the heart of the sainthood case for Pope John Paul II, the Polish priest who heads the inquiry said Monday.

The Vatican needs to confirm a miracle after John Paul's death for the pontiff to be beatified, the first step toward his possible canonization.

Monsignor Slawomir Oder told The Associated Press in an interview that an official inquiry into the nun's inexplicable recovery was beginning this week.

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1 posted on 03/14/2006 12:47:44 PM PST by tbird5
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I'm betting they're going to say it's a miracle. The RCC desperately wants to canonize John Paul II. Myself, I'm not big on miracles.


2 posted on 03/14/2006 12:50:36 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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I'm betting they're going to say it's a miracle. The RCC desperately wants to canonize John Paul II. Myself, I'm not big on miracles.

The Catholic Church itself is one of the biggest skeptics when it comes to miracles.

3 posted on 03/14/2006 12:51:59 PM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: frogjerk

Darn tootin'. The Church absolutely does not want to make a mistake regarding this.


4 posted on 03/14/2006 12:52:59 PM PST by Netheron
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To: tbird5
I'm not big on miracles.

And I'm not big on idolators
5 posted on 03/14/2006 12:53:19 PM PST by The Lumster (USA - where the innocent have nothing to fear!)
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To: tbird5

There is already a documented miracle; The work Pres Reagan and Pope John Paul did to bring down the Soviet Union! The fall of the Evil Empire saved countless lives. In my mind this should count for something, but we still have too many commie shills in the Catholic Church for this to be considered.


6 posted on 03/14/2006 12:53:21 PM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: tbird5

NO!


7 posted on 03/14/2006 12:53:45 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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Did Pope Perform Miracle After His Death?

I am pretty sure the church does not teach that saints (or potential saints) actually perform the miracles.
8 posted on 03/14/2006 12:54:09 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: tbird5

Oh. I thought they meant the poet.

parsy, the man who ain't got no culture.


9 posted on 03/14/2006 12:55:32 PM PST by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: frogjerk

"The Catholic Church itself is one of the biggest skeptics when it comes to miracles."

That depends on how you look at it. Every saint has his or her miracles. Did this nun actually have Parkinson's? I don't know. Was she cured of it by John Paul II. I don't know.

The church is wary of miracles in ordinary situations, but when they want to canonize someone, they always seem to find a miracle or two. They found some for Mother Theresa.

The thing is that all the testing for miraculous cures seems to take place solely within the Church.


10 posted on 03/14/2006 12:55:50 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: tbird5

" - - except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe."

John 4:48


11 posted on 03/14/2006 12:56:11 PM PST by RoadTest ("- - a popular government cannot flourish without virtue in the people." - Richard Henry Lee, 1786)
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Instead of looking so stupid with this, why not just change the rules? These people are amazing.


12 posted on 03/14/2006 12:56:56 PM PST by sangoo
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To: The Lumster

"And I'm not big on idolators"

Me, either. Worshiping idols seems to me to be rather silly.


13 posted on 03/14/2006 12:57:03 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: TalonDJ
I am pretty sure the church does not teach that saints (or potential saints) actually perform the miracles

Wanna bet?
14 posted on 03/14/2006 12:57:48 PM PST by The Lumster (USA - where the innocent have nothing to fear!)
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To: MineralMan

if you are not Catholic, why should this concern any of you in the slightest? i do not understand why people hop on these threads and start ragging on this stuff when it is not a religion they belong to anyway.


15 posted on 03/14/2006 12:58:03 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: tbird5

What is the difference between a miracle, and something unexplainable?


16 posted on 03/14/2006 12:58:11 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: frogjerk

Are there any saints or miracle-workers, that are not Catholic?


17 posted on 03/14/2006 12:59:51 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: sean327

If I'm not mistaken, in order to qualify as a miracle for sainthood, it must take place AFTER the person's death.


18 posted on 03/14/2006 12:59:57 PM PST by TravisBickle (A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. ~ Winston S. Churchill)
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To: MineralMan
The thing is that all the testing for miraculous cures seems to take place solely within the Church.

This is incorrect. The apparently inexplicable cures are vetted by a panel of doctors and scientists, including non-Catholics and even the odd atheist or two (physicians in Italy are oftentimes freethinkers.)

19 posted on 03/14/2006 1:00:29 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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Hey Lumster...if you have any connections could you arrange one of those folks to take care of some hemorrhoids that I have from setting on hard seats.. Thanks....
20 posted on 03/14/2006 1:00:36 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Most Americans are so spoiled with freedom they have no idea what it takes to earn and keep it.)
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