Posted on 02/28/2006 10:01:19 AM PST by NYer
The National Conference of Catholic
(American) Bishops - NCCB
The vast majority of Catholics today do not know that there is an existing obligation to abstain from meat on all Fridays of the year. While it is true that the Code of Canon Law allows for the substituting of another penitential practice, authorized by the NCCB, one has not been defined. As a consequence the abiding custom of the Church has been set aside. Neither bishops nor priests, with rare exception, inform the faithful of their obligations. Laxity and indifference have become the rule throughout most of the American Church in all matters of faith and morals. The congregations are being led straight into Hell.
Laxity and indifference are particularly notable in relation to human life. As the value of life expands in its deterioration, the bishops continue their practice of public posturing. As noted in the news article following the quotations from the Code of Canon Law, the bishops are now consideringg the possibility of reintroducing that which is, in essence, already the existing law of the Catholic Church.
If the average Catholic were asked if they abstain from meat on Fridays, they would say no. If asked what penitential practice they have substituted in place of not eating meat, they would commonly say none.
Bishops, and the priests in their jurisdictions, have long neglected to teach about the obligatory requirement of either abstaining from meat on all Fridays of the year, or of substituting another observance. They have sinned by omission. It should be noted that even Pope Paul VI's variance in Paenitemini of 17 February, 1966 did not abrogate (terminate) the obligation to at least substitute another form of penitential practice.
The bishops are proposing to possibly have Catholics -- do what they were commonly supposed to be doing anyway (NOTE: Most Catholics no longer believe in condemnatory sin and consequently do not go to obligatory confession when in grave sin. It is probable that today there are more Catholics with non-Catholic beliefs than there are Protestants.) -- express their concerns in regard to abortion and euthanasia by abstinence (not eating the meat of mammals, amphibians, reptiles, and fowl). This might to some seem an improvement to expressing the need for prayer in regard to the multitudes of innocent people daily being slaughtered by Godless people. During the seven month period of time intervening between making the proposal to discuss and actually possibly discussing the proposal their will have been between one-half million and over five million people legally murdered in America. Obviously they do not consider this to be a matter of grave concern.
What else could be said or done?
Just a clarification.
Who are these guys:
The National Conference of Catholic
(American) Bishops - NCCB
I've heard of the USCCB, but not of the NCCB.
Just wondering.
Thanks.
"those infidel Douay-Rheims translators"
I don't know. Compare your contribution:
Now the Spirit manifestly saith that in the last times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to spirits of error and doctrines of devils, speaking lies in hypocrisy and having their conscience seared, forbidding to marry, to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving by the faithful and by them that have known the truth. -- I Timothy 4:1-3
with the actual Douay-Rheims translation: (subtitled "Lying teachers")
Now the Spirit expressly says that in after times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceitful spirits and doctrines of devils, 2 speaking lies hypocritically, and having their conscience branded. 3 They will forbid marriage, and will enjoin abstinence from foods, which God has created to be partaken of with thanksgiving by the faithful and by those who know the truth.
Realizing how hard it was to remember to do penance on Fridays, my hubby and I decided to go back to the meatless Fridays. I like it because the need to do something different reminds us why we are doing it - to commemorate Jesus' sufferings, and keep them fresh in our minds.
These little signs are (or ought to be) signals to ourselves and others of our personal committment.
And that is a good thing.
He established the Catholic Church to teach in His name
His Body and Blood builds upon and transforms our nature making us partakers of His Divine Nature
2 Peter...By whom he hath given us most great and precious promises: that by these you may be made partakers of the divine nature: flying the corruption of that concupiscence which is in the world
*Your good nature can be perfected by the Grace of Jesus in the Sacramental System in the Church Jesus established as His Ark of Salvation.
Have a Blessed Lent, brother
Odd. Is there more than one version of the Douay-Rheims? All of these sites concur with what I posted:
http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?passage=1ti+4:3&version=rhe&context=1&showtools=1
http://catholicfirst.com/thefaith/bible/1timothy.cfm
http://www.drbo.org/chapter/61004.htm
http://www.biblehelpsonline.com/lp-douay_rheims_1899/1Timothy.htm
http://www.greeknewtestament.com/christianisrael/douay/B54C004.htm
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/bible/douayr.iTim.4.html?bcb=0
Dude, you are on a roll!
F
And that is precisely the spirit in which this abstinence was developed. It is such a small share in the sufferings of our Lord - a gnawing reminder of what He accomplished for us as well as a grateful acknowledgement.
The USCCB used to be the NCCB. Changed the name about 5-10 years ago.
Will this mean the return of tha Baloot boys to the streets of Manila?
Every Friday you could hear their cries....Baaaloooot! BaaaLooot!
Balot is a ready to hatch chick which though meat is an egg and legal on Friday in heavily Catholic Manila.
Nice post, NYer! I've given up meat again too for the past several years when I finally actually read the entire discipline of the NCCB (which was totally ignored). A cheese sandwich on Fridays and the fish or veggies on Friday night sure focus my mind on the memorial of Good Friday! So do the Sorrowful Mysteries of the Rosary.
F
Here again, we are following the lead of our Lord and Savior who prayed to His Father for those who had been entrusted to Him. They, in turn, prayed for those entrusted to them down through these 2000 years. The forms of prayer are so beautiful and varied. For the past several months, I have been praying the Maronite Divine Office. Like the Jewish tradition it followed, it begins with the evening prayers of Ramsho and culminates with the morning prayers of Safro . These include the praying of Psalms and readings from Scripture.
It only takes 20 minutes to follow these beautiful prayers. They put a smile on my face in the morning and enfold me with their warmth in the evening.
Now see here! I can understand the motivation - denial of something pleasurable - but you could not have picked a worse time to absent yourself from FR. During Lent, the postings are often spiritual in nature, drawing you closer to God. It's your call - and other have done this as well - but, trust me :-) - Lent is when we pull out all the spiritual stops and try to rouse christians in their Lenten practices.
You may want to check in periodically to see if there are any important posts such as the pope's Stations of the Cross on Good Friday. Last year when JPII was so ill, it fell upon the shoulder of (then) Cardinal Ratzinger to lead the stations. When he reached #9, his comments drew instantaneous media attention. This is what he said:
NINTH STATION V/. Adoramus te, Christe, et benedicimus tibi. From the Book of Lamentations. 3:27-32 It is good for a man that he bear the yoke in his youth. Let him sit alone in silence when he has laid it on him; let him put his mouth in the dust - there may yet be hope; let him give his cheek to the smiter, and be filled with insults. For the Lord will not cast off for ever, but, though he cause grief, he will have compassion, according to the abundance of his steadfast love.
What can the third fall of Jesus under the Cross say to us? We have considered the fall of man in general, and the falling of many Christians away from Christ and into a godless secularism. Should we not also think of how much Christ suffers in his own Church? How often is the holy sacrament of his Presence abused, how often must he enter empty and evil hearts! How often do we celebrate only ourselves, without even realizing that he is there! How often is his Word twisted and misused! What little faith is present behind so many theories, so many empty words! How much filth there is in the Church, and even among those who, in the priesthood, ought to belong entirely to him! How much pride, how much self-complacency! What little respect we pay to the Sacrament of Reconciliation, where he waits for us, ready to raise us up whenever we fall! All this is present in his Passion. His betrayal by his disciples, their unworthy reception of his Body and Blood, is certainly the greatest suffering endured by the Redeemer; it pierces his heart. We can only call to him from the depths of our hearts: Kyrie eleison Lord, save us (cf. Mt 8: 25). PRAYER Lord, your Church often seems like a boat about to sink, a boat taking in water on every side. In your field we see more weeds than wheat. The soiled garments and face of your Church throw us into confusion. Yet it is we ourselves who have soiled them! It is we who betray you time and time again, after all our lofty words and grand gestures. Have mercy on your Church; within her too, Adam continues to fall. When we fall, we drag you down to earth, and Satan laughs, for he hopes that you will not be able to rise from that fall; he hopes that being dragged down in the fall of your Church, you will remain prostrate and overpowered. But you will rise again. You stood up, you arose and you can also raise us up. Save and sanctify your Church. Save and sanctify us all.
All: Pater noster, qui es in cælis: Eia mater, fons amoris,
And this was before he was elected pontiff! Imagine this year! |
Thanks but I give more credit to those catholics who seek to unite themselves to the suffering Savior.
I've heard that the capibara is also OK to eat on Lenten Fridays. It is basically a giant hamster but it spends most of its time in the waters of the Amazon river.
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