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To: NYer
Surely, these jokers don't tell people they're going to heaven irrespective of what they've done in their lives?

You mean you aren't a sinner, too...? I've yet to meet anyone who hasn't sinned even after coming to Christ, though maybe you run with a better crowd than I do....

68 posted on 02/22/2006 8:06:27 AM PST by freebilly
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To: freebilly
You mean you aren't a sinner, too...?

There was only one perfect man and they crucified Him.

I've yet to meet anyone who hasn't sinned even after coming to Christ,

Well .... that's comforting. Good to know that people still recognize their frailities and dependence on God.

though maybe you run with a better crowd than I do....

Probably not :-) However, here is how we approach repentance.

Examination of Conscience

75 posted on 02/22/2006 8:36:02 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: freebilly

Some people get the impression (and there's a Barna survey that sort of backs this) that holiness isn't something we are to try to achieve. So some people get the impression that people are preaching that followers of Christ don't need to try to resist sin, or that it's too hard to reach for holiness.

And unfortunately, some people seem to believe this, even though they go to church.


And that's what some people are perceiving.
The Barna survey found:

The telephone survey of 1,003 Americans in January finds that only one-third of Americans contend that “God expects you to become holy,” and 46 percent believe God has called them to holiness. Young adults (39 years old or younger) are less likely to believe that God expects holiness

http://www.christianpost.com/article/ministries/1757/section/new.barna.survey.finds.most.americans.baffled.by.holiness/1.htm

It's clearly written that we should be holy people. Yes, we slip, but if we don't have a sense of what's sinful, or people PERCEIVE that we don't have a sense of what Jesus expects, it gets hard to be salt and light to the world.


76 posted on 02/22/2006 8:39:30 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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