Posted on 02/17/2006 9:35:32 AM PST by NYer
9 posted on 02/17/2006 11:01:07 AM MST by NYer or
Where Y'shua is speaking and says that only He holds the keys to death and Hades: Revelation 1:18 I am the Living One; I was dead,
Are you unfamiliar with the Holy Word of G-d where Y'shua means
b'shem Y'shua
(Psalm 118-14 ..YHvH.. has become my salvation )
and behold I am alive for ever and ever!
And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
Many have claimed to have discovered America. Which ever European you believe discovered it, is up to you, are all Catholic Christians. Leif Ericksen, Christopher Columbus, or St. Brendan the Navigator.
You sure are a glutton for abuse, aren't you?
17 posted on 02/17/2006 11:44:05 AM MST by Theoden
Are you unaware that the Gospels and Epistles Koine Greek was the language that the whole world spoke at the time of Y'shua. Do not take your understanding from Mel Gibson and his movie.
What pray tell does Aramaic have to do with the HOLY WORD OF G-D?
b'shem Y'shua
were breathed by the Ruach haKodesh in Koine Greek
for our understanding.
Amerigo Vespucci ...
The Gospel of Matthew, as you well know, was written in Aramaic
Al Gore discovered America
Do not take this out of context, instead do a word study of "kingdom of heaven".
This will help you to understand.
b'shem Y'shua
And invented the internet, can leap tall buildings in a single bound and is faster than a speeding bullet.
Remember, Scripture isn't a bunch of loose verses and books cobbled together, it is the singular story of the creation, fall and salvation. If you remember that, it helps to put each verse into perspective.
Remember, Scripture isn't a bunch of loose verses and books cobbled together,
it is the singular story of the creation, fall and salvation.
If you remember that, it helps to put each verse into perspective.
31 posted on 02/17/2006 12:36:04 PM MST by conservonator
Use scripture to help exegete scripture.Great! You have taken the first step to understanding the whole counsel of G-d.
b'shem Y'shua
It's not easy. It's never easy to do it right.
If nothing more, it brings home the fact that you can't do it alone!
Still, Jack Bauer could reduce him to tears with just the hint of a scowl
Whatever you do, though, please do not share with the non-Catholics the fact that 24 is a Catholic mind-control plot. We're quite far along in our effort and it would be destructive to let too many in on the secret.
You have to do more than speak the Aramaic language Jesus spoke :)
The Gospel of Matthew, as you well know, was written in Aramaic
27 posted on 02/17/2006 12:22:44 PM MST by bornacatholic
The Gospel was written from a Jewish perspective and The roman church has to insist that it was written in However we all Know that the Ruach haKodesh And the only rock that Y'shua is referring to is Himself.
Matthew. 16:18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, One method of Hermeneutical understanding of Matthew 16:18 The only conclusion that one can come to unless you are
Genesis 49:24 But his bow remained steady, his strong arms stayed Deuteronomy 32:3 I will proclaim the name of the LORD. Oh, praise the greatness of our God! Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock, his works are perfect, and all his ways are Deuteronomy 32:15 ..... He abandoned the God who made him and rejected the Rock his Saviour. Deuteronomy 32:30 How could one man chase a thousand, or two put ten Deuteronomy 32:31 For their rock is not like our Rock, as even our enemies concede Deuteronomy 32:32 Their vine comes from the vine of Sodom and from the fields of Gomorrah. 1 Samuel 2:2 "There is no-one holy [Or no Holy One] like the LORD; 2 Samuel 22:2 He said: "The LORD is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer; 2 Samuel 22:3 my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield and the 2 Samuel 22:32 For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God? 2 Samuel 22:47 "The LORD lives! Praise be to my Rock! Exalted be God, the Rock, my Saviour! 2 Samuel 23:3 The God of Israel spoke, the Rock of Israel said to me: Psalm 18:31 For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God? Psalm 18:46 The LORD lives! Praise be to my Rock! Exalted be God my Saviour! Psalm 19:14 May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart Psalm 42:9 I say to God my Rock, "Why have you forgotten me? Why must I go about mourning, oppressed by the enemy?" Psalm 78:35 They remembered that God was their Rock, that God Most High was their Redeemer. Psalm 89:26 He will call out to me, `You are my Father, my God, the Rock my Saviour.' Psalm 92:15 ..... "YHvH is upright; he is my Rock, and there is no wickedness in him." Psalm 95:1 Come, let us sing for joy to the LORD; let us shout aloud to the Rock of our salvation. Psalm 144:1 Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle. Habakkuk 1:12 O LORD, are you not from everlasting? My God, my Holy Matthew was a Jew, he spoke Hebrew and probably Aramaic
b'shem Y'shua
and Koine Greek as he was a tax collector for the Roman Empire.
contains many linguistic Hebraism constructs.
Aramaic in order to support their Peter and the Rock theory.
breathed all the Gospels and Epistles in Koine Greek
for our understanding
is to do a word study of all the scriptures which were then known
as the Holy Word of G-d when Y'shua spoke these words.
This will allow one to understand that all of the Holy Word of G-d
was inspired by YHvH
predisposed to believe in man's tradition over the Holy Word of G-d
is that Y'shua was speaking of himself as the "rock"
e.g.
[Or archers will attack...will shoot...will remain...will stay] supple,
because of the hand of the Mighty One of Jacob,
because of the Shepherd, the Rock of Israel,
just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he.
thousand to flight, unless their Rock had sold them, unless
the LORD had given them up?
Their grapes are filled with poison, and their clusters with bitterness.
there is no-one besides you; there is no Rock like our God.
horn [Horn here symbolises strength.] of my salvation.
He is my stronghold, my refuge and my saviour — from violent men you save me.
'When one rules over men in righteousness, when he rules in the fear of God,
be pleasing in your sight, O LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer.
One, we will not die. O LORD, you have appointed them to
execute judgment; O Rock, you have ordained them to punish.
Catholics live the New Testament.
Correct. They are Jesus' keys. And He *chose* to give them to St. Peter and his successors. "I will give you (Peter) the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and *whatsoever* you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and *whatsoever* you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
If you give me the keys to *your* house and then leave, do I not have control over it? Am I not held accountable by you for what goes on inside it, while at the same time trusted with its upkeep? Can I not allow people into it of my choosing?? Am I not in charge? Notwithstanding that, is it not still *your* house?
Jesus said the words I quoted from Matthew 16:19 for a reason. They are not empty words or spoken merely to sill out the future New Testament. He DID give an Apostle such power. Jesus is also, being God, omniscient. He knew His Church would last considerably beyond the time of Peter's lifespan. His power was given to his successor and all subsequent successors to the present day, for the benefit of each Christian generation that has come after the original one.
A share in this "binding and loosing" power of St. Peter was given to the other Apostles by Jesus in Matthew 18:18. Their successors are our bishops.
The pope and the bishops have the fullness of the priesthood of Christ. Having the power to bind and to loose, they exercise it, in part, through the power to grant indulgences. That abuses of this process have surfaced at times historically is a different issue from saying that the power does not exist. All of the Apostles, and all of their successors, are prone to sin through their damaged human nature. Nevertheless, they still exercise their ministries. We are not Donatists!
At that time in history, Hebrew was spoken only in the Temple. Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the Apostles spoke Aramaic. That was the common language. Following His death and resurrection, Peter brought the 'good news' first to Antioch. It is in Antioch that the one of the earliest liturgies was developed. The Chaldean, Maronite and Melkite Catholic Churches all retain our Lord's words of Consecration at the Last Supper, in His language - Aramaic.
Consecration in Aramaic
Byow mo how daq dom ha sho dee leh
ma' bed hy eh
nsa bel lah mo be dow qa dee sho to.
Ou ba rekh
ou qa desh
waq so
ou ya bel tal mee dow kad o mar:
Sab a khool meh neh kul khoon:
Ho no den ee tow faghro deel
day lo fy koun wah lof sagee hey
meh tez seh ou meh tee heb
lhoo so yo dhow beh was ha yeh dal 'o lam
'ol meen.
English Translation
On the day before his life-giving passion,
Jesus took bread in his holy hands.
He blessed,
sanctified,
broke,
and gave it to his disciples, saying:
Take and eat it, all of you:
This is my body
which is broken and delivered for you
and for many,
for the forgiveness of sins and eternal life.
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