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To: xzins
The protestant reformation, though, is a specific historic event and many of today's denominations had nothing to do with it. They had no dog in that fight.

It is inappropriate to call them protestants. They aren't protesting, nor have they ever protested, the Catholic/Protestant issues of the reformation.

They just aren't organized that way, nor do they think in those terms.


I'm glad you feel that way.

However, that's not what is in the 'official' documents from a number of Protestant groups:

And, of course, there's no need to go into individual well known names (other than just their mention), such as Ian Paisley, Jack Chick, Bob Jones, etc.

So, while I'm glad you don't see it as an issue, a number of your colleagues apparently still do.

Again, with due respect...

97 posted on 02/15/2006 9:19:09 AM PST by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: markomalley

You must have missed my previous post. The denominations you cite: Presbyterian, Baptist, and Lutheran were all central groups in the Protestant reformation.

I have been speaking of those groups that have come into existence in the last 200 years or so...especially the more recent. They cannot rightly be called protestant, and they are not protesting anything similar to the reformation issues.

Now, I could make an excellent case that many Lutherans, Presbyterians, and Baptists are themselves no longer focused on those issues that led to the reformation break with the Roman Catholics.


101 posted on 02/15/2006 9:32:43 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: markomalley

Ian Paisley, Jack Chick, Bob Jones, are NOT exactly representative of typical Protestant leaders, nor even typical Evangelical leaders. All three are radicals fundamentalists.

The still accepted (ca. 1557)Council of Trent document (though in reality much of it is abrogated by the recent Roman Catholic Catechism) also completely condemns with multiple "anathemas" (i.e. "cursed" and therefore going to Hell) all who hold to key reformational (Protestant) doctrines. (Things like saying faith alone is the foundation of the Christian life of good works.)

I haven't heard any plans on revoking Trent, even though in reality the official church no longer automatically assigns all Protestants to Hell.


106 posted on 02/15/2006 9:41:46 AM PST by AnalogReigns
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