Good for them.
Well, maybe you didn't know that. Anyway, take a look at what you just posted ~ "Baptism with the Holy Ghost and with fire".
Yes, what about it? We always light the babies first, then throw them in the baptistry font. Seems to make more sense that way.
I'm not sure what point you are making. The "fire" is obviously symbolic. Baptism, Christian baptism, to which John refers is what happens in Churches all over the place all the time. Someone is washed with water and this brings about the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. One is baptised with water and the Holy Spirit. The outward sign of washing signifys the inward cleansing of the soul by the Spirit.
That's efficacious Christian baptism, and distinct from John's baptism of repentence.
SD
Somebody must be wrong, right?