[muawiyah]

Well, there we have it ~ your "symbolic" baptism is a "real" baptism to others.

Somebody must be wrong, right?

[SoothingDave]

Well, there we have it ~ your "symbolic" baptism is a "real" baptism to others.

I said John's baptism was not the same thing as a Christian baptism.

Beyond that, I'm not sure what you are driving at.

Those Christian sects who insist Baptism is only a symbol and is not efficacious are, of course, wrong. Note I used the word "efficacious" not "real." It means something.

But this does not stop God from making their baptisms efficacious anyway. It's truly a gracious God we have.

SD