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To: tenn2005; Diego1618
As I sit here in a hotel in Memphis fixin' to check out and fly home, I can't help but ponder how many of these other Tennesee folks have been infected by this theology of yours, Tenn2005.

When I first read the Revelation, one thing really bothered me. It did not look like hell existed. So I ask my wife, "Honey, does hell exist?" and she replies, "Of course not, have you been drinking?"

So I searched to find out how I was so wrong for so long. The immortality of the soul, like so many other errors in modern Christianity, came from pagans from a long time ago like Plato. These guys felt earth was hell because of its constant chaos. They laid down on the ground and looked up and decided that the stars beyond the 7 planets that they could see was heaven or the pleroma or spirit world. The planets themselves were demi-gods, and spirits descended from the pleroma at birth and there mission was to shake off the earthly things, become heavenly, beg the demi-gods to help them, and re-ascend to the pleroma. When Paul went to Rome and the rest of the generally Hellenistic world and started to preach - and then left, this nonesense started creeping in.

Now, I ask you, Tenn2005, whart kind of God would we serve if we were first in heaven, then tossed out to try to live a righteous life in this sin infested world, only to die and have our "spirit" rise back to heaven, only to be tossed out again into the sinc infested world at judgement day? What kind of God would we serve if our loved ones were in heaven looking down at our suffering and watching us sin against God?

590 posted on 02/16/2006 8:03:40 AM PST by kerryusama04 (The Bill of Rights is not occupation specific.)
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To: kerryusama04

You provide ample witness, with your take on something as basic as the existence of Hell or lack thereof, that Scripture is not nearly as "perspicuous" as Protestantism would have us believe. You baldly assert Hell's lack of existence, in the face of rather plain Scripture. You empty Heaven of every being except God, some angels and three humans (!) in direct contradiction to equally clear passages of Scripture. You claim your right to do this because you are led by the Spirit to interpret Scripture.

You are Exhibit A for the need for a Magisterium precisely along the lines of what the Catholic Church has proclaimed it has received from Christ Himself. If something as basic as just these two examples can be so badly mangled, there is no doubt that the doctrine of private interpretation leads to utter chaos elsewhere within all Protestantism!


657 posted on 02/16/2006 11:35:54 AM PST by magisterium
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To: kerryusama04
"When hell drops out of religion, justice drops out of politics." - Emory Storrs
687 posted on 02/16/2006 12:05:28 PM PST by Rytwyng ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche......"Oh, yeah? Wait 3 days!!!" -- God)
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