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To: Full Court
No one is "saved" until they actually die and are admitted into Heaven. It is presumptuous to look at human history and all who have backslidden and just assume that you are not going to be one of them.

Dave, why did Jesus have to die if his death couldn't be enough to save you?

Why do you continue to have these imaginary conversations where you make believe I say one thing, and then respond to it?

Where did I ever say Jesus death was not enough to save me?

Like most who can't or won't understand sacraments, you insist we are talking about who does the saving instead of talking about how the salvation is applied to our souls.

Like I said days ago, this is like insisting we don't believe water can wash us if we have installed pipes and faucets. "How come you have plumbing? Don't you believe in water?"

It's non-sensical, and you should really endeavour to find out what it is you are arguing against. Setting up a rude caricature based on your own misconceptions impresses no one.

God says you can know you are saved, He can give you that peace.

1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God

Yes. "These things" he has written. Not just this one verse. If we follow the commandments and do all that John tells us in his letters, we can be assured that we will die in a state of grace. This is what I already told you.

John didn't say "just quote this one verse and then assume you are saved because you read it." He actually expects you to read his entire letter and live up to it. Then you can know, not because you one day decided you wanted to be "saved."

SD

1,342 posted on 02/22/2006 10:09:42 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

A beautiful allegory "Like I said days ago, this is like insisting we don't believe water can wash us if we have installed pipes and faucets. "How come you have plumbing? Don't you believe in water?""


1,400 posted on 02/22/2006 7:51:48 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia! Ultra-Catholic)
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