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To: SoothingDave; Quester
So you agree that the verse is concerned with establishing Mary's virginity and does not state that the birth is a "turning point" between virginity and non-virginity?

Maybe we can all agree that the correct, original, Hebrew word was concerning a "young woman".?????

Do you agree that there is no correspondence between the Old Testament prophesy of "young woman" and the New Testament use of "Virgin"?

1,227 posted on 02/21/2006 2:48:58 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: OLD REGGIE
"Do you agree that there is no correspondence between the Old Testament prophesy of "young woman" and the New Testament use of "Virgin"?"

All writings have to be read in the context in which they were written. Example:

If Mary were a "young woman" back in that time who had "found favor" with God, that would mean that she lived according to God's teachings at the time and was, without a doubt, a virgin.

Back then, young women living at home with their parents did not consort or associate with men other than their family members; in fact, they often never laid eyes on their husbands-to-be until the day of their wedding.

So, whether one translates it to be "Young woman" or "Virgin," both mean exactly the same thing when read in context.

Secondly, Jesus never taught His followers to repeat 7 Hail Mary's and 5 Our Fathers for forgiveness. He was quite clear on how one would be forgiven: "I am the way, and the truth, and the life, and NONE SHALL COME TO THE FATHER BUT THROUGH ME . (Emphasis my own)

Catholic rigamarole is man-made paganism. The Catholic church is a cult which leads to death and damnation, because it teaches people lies about thier path to Salvation.

Many Catholics are saved, believing Christians, but not all. It depends on whether they place their faith in that false church, or in Jesus and His Word.

;-/

1,238 posted on 02/21/2006 4:51:06 PM PST by Gargantua (For those who believe in God, no explanation is needed; for those who do not, no explanation exists.)
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