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To: Cronos

You have been posting the Catholic view of things. I and others have merely been pointing out where that view differs from the Bible.


1,091 posted on 02/19/2006 10:44:38 PM PST by tenn2005 (Birth is merly an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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To: tenn2005; AlaninSA
I and others have merely been pointing out where that view differs from the Bible.

Nope tenn, you haven't -- as seen in the earlier posts

AlaninSA: Share a source, not a vague reference to something like "early church writings." The Catholic Church is an ancient, large Church. Being ambiguous makes me think you're simply tossing out an accusation you are unable to back up.

Tenn2005: Do you mean to tell me that, as a Catholic you need me, a poor dumb and misinformed christian, to guide you to the source of the doctrine which you espouse? Surely you have concrete information to support your beliefs.

Really Tenn --> that's below you, first you make an accusation: the Catholic church began as a Christian heresey?  then when asked to prove it you say something really with no proof: The historical writings of the Catholic Church.  Then when asked to cite a source, you go on a tangent to cover your bluff.  You made an accusation, the onus is on YOU to prove it

Then you say : "Do you deny the theachings of the Catholic church that I gave you as examples?  Do hold them to be true? If that is the case then you need to be showing where in the Bible these teachings come from. I didn't make them up. Your church did. And you need to chill out and take a deep breath."

WHAT examples?  You just made baseless accusations and hemmed and hawed when asked for proof.  Chill out when someone makes a false accusation?  Wouldn't you like us to forget that FALSE accusation, that LIE?

Then, you say: "I did not state that it was part of your church's teaching, I said that it was a fact" --> really?  Then, why did you state that it was Church doctrine as above?

Then, you make a silly statement like "My, my, my. Are we a little upset when presented with the truch about our apostate church?"  -- it's hilarious, you jumble yourself, make false accusations, lies and then resort to childish taunts when your errors are pointed out.  Really silly.

Then, you make some more silly comments like "Only your "church fathers, not the trinity or divinity of Jesus"  So I guess you consider the Church fathers who put together the canon and what you now read as Scripture as being false and wrong and you hence reject what they pieced together, so you reject scripture?

And another one "Your biggest problem is that you don't understand what the New Testament Church is. All you know is what your "Clergy" tell you."  --  really?  You then reject the scriptures as that is what the clergy told you?  I guess you also, as you pointed out earlier, reject all preachers, teachers, pastors, rabbis and priests.  You alone are the interpreter of the Scriptures, eh?

You rely too much on the "church fathers." By your own admission they are not infallable. That being the case, how do you know which of their "supposedly inspired" statements are correct and which are incorrect. I am definitely not inspired, so I look to the teachings of the Bible which "is proven to be inspired." You have impelled yourself on your own pickard.

Do you even READ the posts?  I said that the Church as a whole is infallible, individuals Church Fathers have made errors.  Similarly YOU as an individual when trying to interpret scripture are FALLIBLE.  Btw -- the phrase is "hoisted on your own petard" :-P

You don't seem to understand that while my congregation has a preacher, he encourages us to go home and test anything he has said against the Bible. When he is in error, and admits that he sometimes probably is, we have the duty to test anything he says against the Bible. That is exactly what I do and what I tell my students to do when I am lecturing. It would be a good practice for you to adopt also.

What makes you think the Catholic Church doesn't encourage us to read and question?  Some more false stories that you've been fed.

1,095 posted on 02/19/2006 10:56:56 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia! Ultra-Catholic)
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