Posted on 02/15/2006 6:22:47 AM PST by NYer
Try using your Bible instead of someone's software. You will be surprised at the benifit.
Irrelevant. "Cafeteria Catholics" do not figure into this point. They claim to be their own magisterium sometimes, but they do so in direct OPPOSITION to their tenuous membership in the Catholic Church. With you, it is apparently an article of faith that you ARE your own teaching authority, with the full approbation of whatever denomination to which you may belong. If you have none, the point is thereby only further emphasized.
Where do you come up with this stuff? Post a scripture already. If I'm wrong, then you ought to be able to correct me with scriptures.
Matthew 10:5 is the great commission. Matthew 10:6 tells them where to go. Rome was a Gentile city. The twelve were instructed by our Saviour Not to go there. Paul was later appointed Apostle to the Gentiles and He also was allowed to preach to the Israelites.
This is why you never see any scripture about Peter being in Rome. Paul established the Church in Rome and none of the twelve are ever shown to be there.
If it is, then you might as well stop being a Christian now, as the religion, however generic you want to make it, would be logically false. If the Catholic Church is man-made, then Jesus, whom we suppose to be omniscient, would have knowingly allowed Himself to be massively quoted out-of-context in His discussion of the Church (whatever it is), and, further, knowingly allowed this bastardized church to go on unchecked and uncorrected for 1500 years before any correction was made. This is an absurd denial of Divine Providence. If that was the best He could do, then we ALL labor in vain, indeed!
Yet, there is an alternative viewpoint here that rectifies the situation quite nicely...
Acts 17:11
Try John 5:24-29. Notice the "and now is" in vs 25 and the "the hour is coming" in verse 28. One (vs 25) concerns the spiritual resurrection and the other (vs 28) concerns the bodidly resurrection at the end of time.
You are right on.
Backatcha.
Actually, Paul is mentioned more than Peter.
The church established by Jesus continued to exist even after the apostate Catholic church came into existence. By you logic every church that has come into existence that was not "His church" would have been stamped out via "divine providence." God gives man a choice. Either obey the teachings of the Bible or men such as the Pope, Mohammed, or Joseph Smith.
Okay. The people studied the prophecies of the Tanach to see if Christ fulfilled the Scriptures. How does this equate to "anything extra-Biblical did not happen"? I guess America was never discovered, then.
You are right and besides that Paul wrote much more of the New testament than Peter did.
Then why are the graveyards still full? The way I read this is that those who believe in Jesus move from the "doomed" column to the "saved" column. "Shall come forth" would indicate a future event.
Dang, you drew them all off of me. I'm going to bed. Catcha' later my FRiend.
When he says "the hour is coming, and now is" He is referring to the present. When he talks about the graves being opened he is referring to the future. Are you unable to discern the difference?
Think about it. Why would the Lord take us at death to "heaven" and then resurrect us later on back into a mortal body. Ezekiel 37 describes the resurrection fairly well. Notice verse 8 regarding tendons and flesh reappearing....and new skin!
Where does it say the 24 elders are human?
The Catholics didn't split from the Orthodox --- and the Orthodox didn't split from the Catholic -- they had a mutual falling out and remained apart. That's why it's called a schism. What the Protestants did was to break away
The scripture in Ezekiel has nothing to do with the resurrection of the dead. It is the spirit, not the body that goes to heaven or hell at death. It will be at the bodidly resurrection that the spirit is placed in the resurrected body.
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