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Where Have All the Protestants Gone?
NOR ^ | January 2006 | Thomas Storck

Posted on 02/15/2006 6:22:47 AM PST by NYer

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To: Quester
I don't think that Jesus' brethren were actually about sending Him to His death, ... but, rather, that they showed the attitude of the other citizens of Jesus' old stomping grounds (i.e. that he was making more of Himself than He ought).

I agree. I was kind of exaggerating, but someone upthread did put forth seriously that His brothers were trying to get him killed.

They, obviously, didn't get the enormity of Who Jesus really was ... and, as such, I would tend to believe that they underestimated the danger to Him in attending the festival.

Sorry, pedantic point. "Enormity" is something monstrously evil. "Enormousness" or "immensity" is something really big. Pet peeve.

My point only concerned the likelihood that James, the brother of Jesus ... was or was not ... one of the original twelve Apostles.

I think you make a good argument for your case.

I believe that it is possible that Christians, in good conscience, ... can disagree with one another as to whether Mary had other children or not.

So do I.

SD

2,341 posted on 03/02/2006 9:47:33 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: OLD REGGIE
Smart alec!

They're always saying I'm full of wit. ;-)

SD

2,342 posted on 03/02/2006 9:48:19 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
They're always saying I'm full of wit. ;-)

Humor is a shift of wit.

Odor is a whiff of ----.
2,343 posted on 03/02/2006 10:38:36 AM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: SoothingDave
Sorry, pedantic point. "Enormity" is something monstrously evil. "Enormousness" or "immensity" is something really big. Pet peeve.

For all of our edification. :^)
Main Entry: enor·mi·ty
Pronunciation: i-'nor-m&-tE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
Date: 15th century

1 : an outrageous, improper, vicious, or immoral act

2 : the quality or state of being immoderate, monstrous, or outrageous; especially : great wickedness

3 : the quality or state of being huge : IMMENSITY

4 : a quality of momentous importance usage

Enormity, some people insist, is improperly used to denote large size. They insist on enormousness for this meaning, and would limit enormity to the meaning "great wickedness." Those who urge such a limitation may not recognize the subtlety with which enormity is actually used. It regularly denotes a considerable departure from the expected or normal

- they awakened; they sat up; and then the enormity of their situation burst upon them. "How did the fire start?" -- John Steinbeck.

When used to denote large size, either literal or figurative, it usually suggests something so large as to seem overwhelming ...

- Either the enormity of the desert or the sight of a tiny flower -- Paul Theroux

- the enormity of the task of teachers in slum schools -- J. B. Conant


... and may even be used to suggest both great size and deviation from morality

- the enormity of existing stockpiles of atomic weapons -- New Republic.

It can also emphasize the momentousness of what has happened ...

- the sombre enormity of the Russian Revolution -- George Steiner

... or of its consequences

- perceived as no one in the family could the enormity of the misfortune -- E. L. Doctorow.

2,344 posted on 03/02/2006 1:31:28 PM PST by Quester
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To: Quester
Dictionary.com quotes the American Heritage dictionary:

Usage Note: Enormity is frequently used to refer simply to the property of being great in size or extent, but many would prefer that enormousness (or a synonym such as immensity) be used for this general sense and that enormity be limited to situations that demand a negative moral judgment, as in Not until the war ended and journalists were able to enter Cambodia did the world really become aware of the enormity of Pol Pot's oppression. Fifty-nine percent of the Usage Panel rejects the use of enormity as a synonym for immensity in the sentence At that point the engineers sat down to design an entirely new viaduct, apparently undaunted by the enormity of their task. This distinction between enormity and enormousness has not always existed historically, but nowadays many observe it. Writers who ignore the distinction, as in the enormity of the President's election victory or the enormity of her inheritance, may find that their words have cast unintended aspersions or evoked unexpected laughter.

2,345 posted on 03/02/2006 1:46:07 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Huh ... I obviously didn't even know of this great controversy. :^)

2,346 posted on 03/02/2006 2:06:17 PM PST by Quester
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To: Quester
Oh, to have a vote on the Usage Panel. :-)

SD

2,347 posted on 03/02/2006 2:12:16 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave; gscc
Yep. And it also calls nephews "brothers" and half-brothers "brothers" and cousins "sisters." There is no consistency cause there were different human authors. God did not dictate Scripture.

No matter how much you belabor the point, it doesn't seem to get through, does it?
2,348 posted on 09/03/2006 6:23:04 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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