Where Have All the Protestants Gone?

NOR ^ | January 2006 | Thomas Storck

[Cronos]

Now, would those who believe that Jesus had no half-brothers and sisters please explain Matt 13:54-56

By the same method I've told you earlier -- neither you nor gscc, nor FC know the blinkers that stop you from SEEING. You forget that I've repeated over and over again that in the Middle East -- even UNTO TODAY -- brother can mean a common term for siblings, half-siblings and COUSINS and even other brethern. Otherwise, how do you explain the Bible calling Lot Abraham's brother when Lot was clearly Abraham's nephew?

[restornu]

Amen!

[restornu]

Amen!

You are on fire REGGIE

It's nice too know there are a few who can cut through the traditions of men!

[restornu]

amen! lol

[Cronos]

Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

That is an injunct against whoremongers and adulterers, but says nothing about those who abstain...

[Cronos]

Note: his brethren.... That includes kinsmen and kinswomen...Ditto for the terms brothers and sisters when taken in context of the Middle East.

[restornu]

"How convenient. No, many of your "Traditions" cannot contradict Scripture simply because they refer to events never mentioned in Scripture nor things, to our knowledge, ever taught by the Apostles. You can then cherrypick from the writings of the early Church Fathers to support these "Traditions".

Fine, if you can get away with it.

You hit the nail square on the head!

This has always been and was offically sanction by the Traditions of Men down through the century Nicene Creed and when new sitution arised another council was was formed to smooth over the wrinkles!

Guide to Early Church Documents

My point is NOT the validity of these councils but the fact every time there seemed to be a bump in the road that did not conform their agenda it had to be over hauled!

[Jaded]

dead link

[restornu]

Not all of them are dead.

These links expires or change over time!

What I would is copy the title and try to google it if you want to read that article

[restornu]

Which one did you want?


CHRONOLOGY 1-199 AD
http://www.gate.net/~seraphim/chron1.htm

[Uri’el-2012]

don't you mean to say that you retracted your false statement posing as the truth (which is a fancy way of saying a person LIED) and then try to cover your false statement (i.e. lie) with bluster?

You need to seek the face of the L-rd.

If you follow Him as your L-rd.

b'shem Y'shua

[wmfights]

"...Paul did not learn at the feet of Jesus Christ...."

Paul is truly unique in this regard. In his conversion though in ACTS one passage stands out.

Acts 9:15-16 " But the LORD said to Ananias, "Go! This man is my chosen instrument to carry my name before the Gentiles and their Kings and before the people of Israel. I will show him how much he must suffer for my name."

Paul was called out by the LORD. He was noted for writing letters/SCRIPTURE from the beginning. He did not learn the LORD'S teachings at his feet while he was physically with the Apostles and because of that I think you can make a case that he is not an Apostle, but a Disciple. However, I believe because the LORD reached down and personally assigned him a mission (preach to the Gentiles) you can argue he is an Apostle. Either definition doesn't matter in that he was the most prolific writer used by the LORD in writing the New Testament.

[Jaded]

This one works

[Knitting A Conundrum]

That domain has elapsed. You're going to have to go to the www.webarchive.org to get access to it. Site might be abandoned. Hasn't updated it since last april.

[Full Court]

It says that the marriage bed is undefiled. It makes clear that sex between Mary and Joseph, which the Bibles tells us happened, was not a sin.

[Full Court]

If Mary had had other children, Jesus would not have given her into John's keeping.

There is nothing in Scripture to tell us that. Yet there is plenty that tells us that Mary and Joseph had sex and had other children.

Why would any of you reject the clear teaching of God's Word?

[Full Court]

You posted it once again without ever responding to 1633

Mary and Joseph had sex and had other children. The Bible is clear on that. I don't need to respond to a post that uses a text I do not believe in or a post that tries to make the Bible untrue.

The Bible is true, whether you believe it or not.

Matthew 1:24  Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:

25  And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

Every time the phrase "knew her" is used it is talking about sexual relations.

God is clear here, and there is no room for anyone to cast doubt upon the Word of God unless they are an enemy of Christ.

[Full Court]

By your question, you must assume that Mary did not abstain from sex before the birth of Jesus.

The Bible says that they did not have sex until AFTER the birth of Jesus.

[Full Court]

Full Court, that's your personal opinion, the Word of God does not say this.

The Word of God is very clear that Mary and Joseph had sex.

Matthew 1:24  Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:

25  And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

[Full Court]

The Scriptures were written within the Catholic Church,

That is total bull.

Romans 3:1  ¶What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?

2  Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.