Where Have All the Protestants Gone?

NOR ^ | January 2006 | Thomas Storck

[InterestedQuestioner]

Ping to post # 1538:

Now that's a post! This should really be it's own thread.


"The depth rating for this pressurized Wasp is about 2200 feet. Being the diver is breathing an air mixture there is no need for decompression..... Basically its a submarine shaped like a wasp designed for a single person, not for me thank you."

LOL I wonder what kind of person gets in that thing. It actually sounds like something that I would like to try.

"More like 3 miles down, but very rarely do we go that deep, yet. Average depth is anywhere from 3000 to 8000 feet in the Gulf of Mexico. This is where our technology has taken us thus far in constructing permanent installations in ultra deep water. At these depths the creatures, as rare as they are, move very slow. Some so strange words cannot explain. I would see at times, very large crabs, things growing up out of the seabed like cactus, that seem to sense with contortions the lights of our arrival. At first you ask, is this a plant or some fleshy organism? One time I couldn't believe it, there was this fish, instead of bottom fins it had small legs and was actually walking on the seabed! Some of this stuff is right out of fossil records but they're alive!".......

Clay+Iron_Times, I assume any animal that lives that far down is a carnivore, since plants probably can't grow that far under water. I've heard that the fish at extreme depths have to have enormous jaws, because they pretty much have to be able to swallow anthing that floats down to them. Do you think that's true?

"My division manager wrote a story for Oil and Gas Journal and the first line of the first paragraph was: Imagine dangling a pencil by a string from the top of the Empire State building, landing the pencil in the middle of a nickel on the sidewalk below. That’s the accuracies in acoustic surveying needed to install the Shell Mars TLP foundation piles."

[Cronos]

Apples and oranges

Such comparisons seem the norm for those who seek to justify their break from Christ's Church.

[Cronos]

We do not believe the Church is "man made." Nor do we view it as a "corporation," at least not in the way you are using the word. It is a corpus, the Body of Christ on earth.

The Vatican is not a policital entity?

It does not have Diplomats (by whatever name) in any country in the world which will allow them into the country?

Diocese's (sp?) in trouble throughout the world don't claim the Vatican, not they, own their so-called property?

I could go on and on but I think I'll wait for you to claim that the RCC is nothing but a simple Church with no political or worldly ambitions.

Again Apples and Oranges.  The Vatican is both the place where the Bishop of Rome resides and a separate state (read up on the events of 1870).  Furthermore, each Patriarch in the Catholic Church resides in a separate city -- like the Patriarch of the Maronite Catholic Church, the Patriarch of the Chaldean Catholic church etc.)

[Cronos]

if Mary didn't have sex with Joseph she sinned and her children were by some other man.

Mary's only Child was Jesus Christ.

[Cronos]

He is talking about sex in that passage.

Really -- isn't it what you want to read into it?

But the wife is still to be submissive to the husband. Fod the woman was created for the man, not the other way around.

Really -- isn't it what you want to read into it?

[.30Carbine]

Thank you for taking the time to share all that. I was fascinated throughout the whole!

[.30Carbine]

Thank you for the links!

[Flavius Josephus]

Why do you only hope?

We don't take it for granted.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

More than a Teshuva, you were pointed to the Scriptures and to the Almighty One through Jesus. At some point, you were touched by the Sermon on the Mount, the call to Holiness and justice, the possibility of forgiveness, and the understanding that man has a higher purpose.

God could use all this to point you in the right direction as well if you'll let him. Come on home. :-)

[SoothingDave]

Why do you only hope? Why don't you know? Wasn't what Jesus did once and for all enough? Jesus isn't enough?

Why do you continue to act as if I never posted 1348, which addressed your false principle of "security" in your own salvation, with the very Scripture you tried to use to prove it?

Until you acknowledge responses given to you, it seems pointless to continue repeating the same old phrases. Can you respond to my post?

SD

[SoothingDave]

if Mary didn't have sex with Joseph she sinned and her children were by some other man.

Please present any evidence from Scripture that Mary was the mother of anyone else.

If you are capable of responding to posts, that is.

SD

[SoothingDave]

We do not believe the Church is "man made." Nor do we view it as a "corporation," at least not in the way you are using the word. It is a corpus, the Body of Christ on earth.

The Vatican is not a policital entity? It does not have Diplomats (by whatever name) in any country in the world which will allow them into the country? Diocese's (sp?) in trouble throughout the world don't claim the Vatican, not they, own their so-called property?

The Vatican City state is not the same thing as the Catholic Church. Do you not understand this? The Pope is leader of the government of the sovereign state of Vatican City. It is this state which conducts diplomatic affairs, just like any other state.

I know of no Catholics who consider their Church to be a small landlocked sovereign state contained within the state of Italy.

So why even mention it?

I could go on and on but I think I'll wait for you to claim that the RCC is nothing but a simple Church with no political or worldly ambitions.

Chuck lied and said Catholics view their own church as a man-made corporation.

We do neither. We believe the Church is of divine foundation and we do not think of it as a legal entity chartered to provide recognition under the laws of various states.

It may be organized in this legal fashion in order to efficiently operate in the various states in which it does, but this is a detail of the reality of operating a vast global enterprise in the 21st century.

The identity of what the church is in its professions and in the minds of its believers is no more that of a publicly identified non-profit corporation than the hordes of Steeler Nation consider the team to be a "corporation."

SD

[Full Court]

Jesus has brothers and sisters.

[SoothingDave]

Please present any evidence from Scripture that Mary was the mother of anyone else.

Jesus has brothers and sisters.

Perhaps you didn't understand the question. Where in Scripture is anyone identified as a child of Mary?

The use of the phrase "brothers and sisters" is ambiguous because of the way kin are accounted for in the Semitic language. Perhaps you were not aware of this. It's in the Bible.

SD

[Full Court]

You don't take it for granted, meaning you don't trust Christ?

That's a bad place to be.

Hebrews 11:6  But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

[Full Court]

Me:God the woman was created for the man, not the other way around.

You:Really -- isn't it what you want to read into it?

No, it's what God says.

1 Corinthians 11:9  Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

[SoothingDave]

Post 1348 is still sitting there waiting for you to acknowledge it.

SD

[wmfights]

"Jesus has brothers and sisters."
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They will never accept anything you show them from SCRIPTURE. If they did their house of cards would collapse. If Mary had other children she would be just like the rest of us She couldn't be a "co-redemptress".

[Uri’el-2012]

First Century Mikvah is found in Jerusalem.

b'shem Y'shua

[SoothingDave]

They will never accept anything you show them from SCRIPTURE. If they did their house of cards would collapse.

Is it possible Scripture wasn't written in English for a 21st Century American audience?

And why so much gladhanding each other instead of addressing the points we make?

SD