Posted on 02/15/2006 6:22:47 AM PST by NYer
Yep. Start with Foxxe's Book of Martyr's.
How many do you think Rome has slain for the Word of God or just having a Bible?
Revelation 6:9
¶And when he had opened the fifth seal,
I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God,
and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true,
dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
More revisionist history. Jerome clearly referred to the Apocryphal or Deuterocanonical books as to be " read in the church, but not to be cited for proof texts of doctrine." He separated the Apocryphal books from the rest of the Hebrew OT saying that "Whatever falls outside these (Hebrew texts) . . . are not in the canon." He added that the books may be read for edification, but not for ecclesiastical dogmas.
Luther merely returned these books to the status that Jerome had placed them.
A final irony in this matter is the fact that even Cardinal Cajetan, who opposed Luther at Augsburg in 1518, published a Commentary on All the Authentic Historical Books of the Old Testament (1532) in which he did not include the Apocrypha.
John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
Take your pick.
Dave, can you not understand God?
if she did not have sex with Joseph, she was sinning, yes.
5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
Scripture is very clear here that married men and women are not to with hold sex from one another.
James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
God hates every evil way, don't you?
Dave, why did Jesus have to die if his death couldn't be enough to save you?
God says you can know you are saved, He can give you that peace.
1 John 5:13
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
1 John 5:20
And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Why would you willingly chose to disregard what God says, not believe Him and follow a man made path that leads to an eternity in Hell?
Matthew 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world,
and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Mark 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Mark 8:37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Acts 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness...
It's online. It's searchable. Any idiot can read it.
My question is why you would believe such man made tripe over the Holy Bible.
Dave, how does God abort you from the new birth?
Full Court, how do you know you're not a future backslider who is deluding him or herself right now?
You do know what "presumption" means, right?
SD
You answered your very own question in your very own next post.
1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
SD
LOL. Polemics are not history. No serious person believes this book is accurate.
SD
I'm sorry, what part of that response was you explaining the Trinity in full? Did you not understand the question?
If God is infinite how can your finite mind comprehend Him?
SD
Conservative til I die: Where did Jesus describe baptism as you describe it?
Gargantua claimed Jesus said we must be adults to be baptized. Conservative asked where Jesus said this.
Firstly, the Scripture you posted is not Jesus speaking, and secondly, it does not claim you must be an adult to be baptized. You've in no way supported Gargantua's claim with your post.
Yes, that is true. If a spouse requests sex and the other refuses on a regular basis, that is a sin. But that does not apply to the situation where both spouses mutally agree to not have sex, which is not a sin.
Gargantua: I was baptized as an adult, as Jesus says we must be
Conservative til I die: Where did Jesus describe baptism as you describe it?
Gargantua claimed Jesus said we must be adults to be baptized. Conservative asked where Jesus said this.
Firstly, the Scripture you posted is not Jesus speaking, and secondly, it does not claim you must be an adult to be baptized. You've in no way supported Gargantua's claim with your post.
1,337 posted on 02/22/2006 10:40:35 AM MST by Titanites
If we seek to understand water immersion (baptism in the Greek)b'shem Y'shua
as practiced by John the Immerser, we need to understand the
Jewish culture of Mikvah at the time of Y'shua.MikvahImmersion in the mikvah has offered a gateway to purity ever since the creation of man.
The Midrash relates that after being banished from Eden, Adam sat in a river that flowed from the garden.
This was an integral part of his teshuvah (repentance) process, of his attempt at return to his original perfection.Before the revelation at Sinai, all Jews were commanded to immerse themselves in preparation for coming face to face with G-d.
Immersion in the mikvah has offered a gateway to purity ever since the creation of man
In the desert, the famed "well of Miriam" served as a mikvah. And Aaron and his sons'
induction into the priesthood was marked by immersion in the mikvah.In Temple times, the priests as well as each Jew who wished entry into the House of G-d had first to immerse in a mikvah.
On Yom Kippur, the holiest of all days, the High Priest was allowed entrance into the Holy of Holies,
the innermost chamber of the Temple, into which no other mortal could enter.
This was the zenith of a day that involved an ascending order of services, each of which was preceded by immersion in the mikvah.from chabad.org
Where does it say that in the Bible?
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