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To: wmfights

The Church is *supposed* to be "one," according to Jesus in John 17:20-21. Knowing what He was about to undergo in just a few hours, Jesus still prioritized unity in His prayer to His Father. Good ratification for the importance of the concept!

Further, it is the Church *alone* that is described in Scripture as the "pillar and bulwark of the truth" (!Timothy 3:15. Unity AND truth are found in the Church. It is MEANT to "control" the Word of God. Not you. Not I. We can certainly read from it, using the lights that God gave us. But WE are not the end-all magisterial authority. Our "opinions" regarding Scripture or any other aspect of the Faith *must* conform with the Church, which *alone* as an institution is preserved from error.

To presume otherwise is arrogant and invites chaos. The evidence for which is all around you. Thousands of differing opinions within Protestantism alone are eloquent testimony to this. The "perspicuousness" of Scripture was the founding myth of Protestantism and its most obvious error. An inerrant source of information without in interpreting authority of equal inerrancy is useless. The mere fact that EVERY Scriptural thread on this forum has, at a minimum, three main streams of interpretation is eloquent testimony to this. More often, there are even more differing themes than just three.

You can't even demonstrate how the canon of Scripture came to be without acknowledging the authority of the early Church. The very Bible that you hold to be inerrant (as do we) you can't even demonstrate the inerrancy of with credibility. Your foundation for your beliefs is every bit composed of the shifting sands described in Matthew 7:24-27. It is not founded on the Rock. May God help you find bedrock upon which to build your foundation of faith!


99 posted on 02/10/2006 7:38:32 AM PST by magisterium
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To: magisterium
"The "perspicuousness" of Scripture was the founding myth of Protestantism and its most obvious error."
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It is only when discussing the SCRIPTURES with RC's that the ease of understanding meaning comes into dispute. You lay claim to the idea that you are meant to "control" SCRIPTURE because a council of men recognized the inspired WORD OF GOD. This is hubris in that these writings would still have been the inspired WORD OF GOD whether you recognized them or not. Your council's recognition of GOD's WORD did not make it GOD's WORD.

If you choose to let other men, weak and fallible, think for you and stand between you and our LORD it is your loss not mine. I refuse to let an institution of man separate me from my SAVIOR.

Romans 8:38 "For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither Angels nor Demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of GOD that is in CHRIST JESUS OUR LORD."
It seems pretty straight forward to me.

John 6:37 "All that the FATHER gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away."
It seems pretty clear to me.
101 posted on 02/10/2006 8:00:45 AM PST by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get out of the Way!)
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