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To: RnMomof7; bremenboy; jjm2111
+++Bremenbody, I can see certainly identify with your concern over the doctrine of justification by faith alone, as it contradicts Scripture and is a doctrine that can easily be abused.+++ "Show me where it contradicts scripture.


1 Cor 13:2

" if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing."

James 2:24

"You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone."




There are, of course, many others as well, but these two are clear enough.
Again, RnMomof7, while you have included many beautiful Scriptures that underscore the importance of belief and faith, you have not produced a single Scripture that says man is justified by faith alone. No one is claiming that salvation is not a freely given gift, but it is a gift which can be rejected. Faith is the foundation and basis of our relationship with God, but Scripture never says we are saved by faith alone. That teaching was not invented until 16 centuries after the time of Christ. Faith without love is pointless, and faith without action is dead.
152 posted on 02/11/2006 9:31:40 AM PST by InterestedQuestioner (Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved.)
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To: InterestedQuestioner; RnMomof7; bremenboy; jjm2111

****Scripture never says we are saved by faith alone. That teaching was not invented until 16 centuries after the time of Christ. ******

"In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye were sealed with the holy spirit of promise,
Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased posession, unto the praise of his glory....
...And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins....

For BY GRACE ARE YE SAVED, and that NOT OF YOURSELVES, it is THE GIFT OF GOD, NOT OF WORKS, LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST.
For WE are HIS workmanship, created in Christ Jesus UNTO GOOD WORKS which God hath BEFORE ORDAINED, that we should walk in them."




The Person saved by GRACE WILL DO GOOD WORKS because GOD has FOR ORDAINED THEM after the person has been saved, not because we can be saved by them!

Isn't it interesting that one "works" verse in James (To the 12 tribes scattered abroad) automaticly cancels out all of Paul's grace verses (To the ONE body of believers Jew and gentile)!
There seems to be a natural tendency for a sinner to feel the need to EARN their salvation.
If it can be earned then CHRIST DIED IN VAIN!


178 posted on 02/11/2006 5:50:22 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Islam, the religion of the criminally insane.)
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