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To: whispering out loud
as a "Bible"-based "Christian", you are surely ignorant of the Bible. maybe the filter you read it with allows you to ignore what the Bible actually states regarding Peter.

In the NT, Peter was not the first apostle to follow Jesus, but, whenever the apostles are listed, or mentioned, Peter is first, or the statement: "Peter and the apostles" is used.

How many times in the OT, did God change the name of His key person? Abram to Abraham., etc. In the NT, whose name did he change? The name Peter did not exist until that point in time, when Jesus changed Simon's name to Kephas ( Petros in greek ).

When asked about paying the temple tax, Jesus tells Peter to : go catch a fish, and in its mouth will be two coins, one for me, and one for you..".

When they were essentially ran out of the temple, where did they go? To Peter's house.

When Peter proclaims Jesus, the Messiah, the Son of the LIving God, what does Jesus do and say?

During the last supper, Jesus states, (luke)31. "And the Lord said: Simon, Simon, behold Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: 32. But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren." In this passage, Jesus is stating that Satan wants to have all of the apostles, but Jesus thens prays for "thee" ( Simon Peter ), that Peter will then "strengthen his bretheren", the other apostles.

In John, after His resurrection, Jesus appears on the shore, cooking fish, whilst His apostles are out in a boat. Who jumped into the water and ran to Jesus ( reminds you who jumped into the water and walked on water?)? John21-11 "Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, and hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken." Peter alone brought in the net full of fish ( They cast therefore, and now they were not able to draw it for the multitude of fishes.). What does this mean- Peter has the strength that all of the others did not have? The "153" fish is said to represent the total number of different fish known in the old world.

When Jesus gives his commission on the shore, who does He give it to? "So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs. He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep. 17. He said to him the third time: Simon, son of John, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved, because he had said to him the third time: Lovest thou me? And he said to him: Lord, thou knowest all things: thou knowest that I love thee. He said to him: Feed my sheep. "

To Peter alone, Jesus says Feed My sheep. Some translations use "Tend my sheep , and another uses "shepard my sheep".

But then again, you are a Bible Christian, and you know all of this.

327 posted on 02/07/2006 5:38:16 PM PST by haole (John 10 30)
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To: haole
At what point was the "Church" commanded though to follow Peter?
They weren't.

But I am not going to get back into this debate. Please feel free to believe as you will, as for my beliefs if they are wrong the Lord will show me. Once again I will say, I am done here.
337 posted on 02/07/2006 7:09:47 PM PST by whispering out loud (the bible is either 100% true, or in it's very nature it is 100% a lie)
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