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To: .30Carbine; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
[ You encouraged me to delve into the the understanding of the foundations, the 12 gemstones of the New Jerusalem. While exploring this realm I've uncovered more about the Stone, and stones in general. Do you want to hear it? Is this the time and place? ]

Absolutly 30carbine <-shoot.. Taking my own advice, I did too (consider New Jerusalem in its metaphorical aspects)..
If not here then, where?, I would say.. Ozzie Chambers is just to get the fellowship going here, I believe.. I'll start it off since I'm the resident Moonbat...

I see New Jerusalem as a spiritual place for spirits and since spirits have no need of gender, food, clothing, bathing, riches, or even SHAPE and a plethora of other earthly necessity's .. Description of it must be metaphorical to vaguely grasp the things "eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor has entered into the heart of them that love him"(verse in ICor).. No, New Jerusalem is a spiritual place for spirits in the spiritual dimension (whatever that is).. And the stones are the spirits themselves.. New Jerusalem is not a place FOR spirits but it is the spirits themselves.. Different kinds of spirits merged in the light fellowship as a foundation.. with other things (river of life etc.) as bases of conversation of the "mergings" of spirits in spiritual unity.. With harmony and joyful energy shining out in a musical orchestration as sound like crystal singing.. since ideas then will emit light and sound.. Language with words will not be needed because the spirits are merged making language obsolete..

Thats part of what I got.. a small part.. What did you get?.. Even if I only have a version of the reality of it.. as much as my mind can absorb now with my qualia.. It beats wandering around streets of gold as a lonely spirit which would quickly bore me..

John saw something in his "vision" to even wite Rev..21-22.. and shared as much as his qualia allowed.. The various quales in his "vision" are quite wonderful.. but metaphorical I think.. What do you think?.. Since we're playing as children in a spiritual playground..

God MUST be loving this.. us being his children..

9 posted on 01/30/2006 8:40:31 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe
If not here then, where?

That is in the Lord's hands! (; Though sometimes I feel I know what Jeremiah describes.

13 posted on 01/30/2006 12:25:23 PM PST by .30Carbine ("Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." ~Rev. 19:10)
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To: hosepipe; .30Carbine; Alamo-Girl; All; Kitty Mittens

Studying stones brings up a question I have wondered about ...

Revelation 2:17 cdff
"... To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a 'white stone', and 'in the stone' a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it."

Any insights?


Jesus said, "My Father is working until now and I Myself am working."
John 5:17
... suggesting that work is an ongoing process: perhaps we will establish new planets and worlds and life in our etherial forms ...

to me it seems that life here is definitely worth living and we hold on to it dearly, hoping to have long life ...
I have no doubt that heavenly existence will be filled with much to do and know and grow ...

Whether we travel thru the ethers and are part of the celestial music of the universe; or we meld into one consciousness, it will be heavenly and God's gift to us: hence good and beautiful ... as promised.
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Hence[".. Description of it must be metaphorical to vaguely grasp the things "eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor has entered into the heart of them that love him"(verse in ICor)..."]


16 posted on 01/30/2006 1:14:21 PM PST by Countyline (God loves you ... He wants you to love Him back; and learn of Him.)
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