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'On Eagle's Wings' tops all songs in online liturgical music survey - For Discussion!
Catholic News ^ | Jan-25-2006 | Mark Pattison

Posted on 01/27/2006 9:51:19 AM PST by franky

WASHINGTON (CNS) -- "On Eagle's Wings," the musical reworking of the 91st Psalm by Father Michael Joncas, topped all other songs in an online poll asking which liturgical song most fostered and nourished the respondent's life.

Two songs made popular by the St. Louis Jesuits -- "Here I Am, Lord" and "Be Not Afraid" -- came in second and third, followed by "You Are Mine," by David Haas.

The online poll was sponsored by the National Association of Pastoral Musicians. The poll was featured last year in an issue of its membership magazine, Pastoral Music, and announcements about the poll were distributed to diocesan newspapers in an effort to get the input of "rank-and-file Catholics," said J. Michael McMahon, the association's president.

In the poll, respondents could vote for only one song. No songs were listed on the Web site to give them suggestions. About 3,000 people took part in the poll.

Of the 25 liturgical music songs mentioned most, songs written after the Second Vatican Council took not only the top four positions, but six of the top nine, and 12 of the top 25. The fourth-ranked song, "You Are Mine," received 138 votes, 81 percent more votes than the fifth-ranked song, "How Great Thou Art," which got 76.

McMahon, in a telephone interview with Catholic News Service, cautioned against the notion that post-Vatican II music has dominance over all other liturgical music. "We got 670 different songs mentioned," he said. "Even the top choice is only 8 percent of the total," or 242 votes.

The poll results didn't surprise McMahon. "It panned out pretty much like the way I expected," he said, adding that The Tablet, a British Catholic newspaper, conducted a similar survey, which found "Here I Am, Lord" to be the top choice of its readers.

Rounding out the pastoral musicians association's top 10 was, in sixth place, the traditional Catholic hymn "Holy God, We Praise Thy Name," whose lyrics are ascribed to Ignaz Franz, followed by John Newton's "Amazing Grace," Marty Haugen's "All Are Welcome," Sebastian Temple's "Prayer of St. Francis," and "Ave Maria."

Those who voted for "Ave Maria" and "Panis Angelicus," which finished 15th, probably meant the versions by Franz Schubert and Cesar Franck, respectively, "but we don't know for sure," McMahon said. "Since many of them (voters) were not professionals, they probably didn't realize there was more than one version."

Currently filling in as a parish choir director, McMahon said, "I'm always surprised how many young people ask for 'Ave Maria' or 'Panis Angelicus' at weddings and funerals."

One Spanish-language song, "Pescador de Hombres," made the list, finishing 17th. Many hymnals print English-language companion lyrics, calling the song "Lord, When You Came to the Seashore." In his current interim job, McMahon said, he asked "who had heard this song, and only one did, and she came from Latin America."

McMahon said this points to "the divergence of American Catholic churches," including "the hymnals they use," since songs published by one copyright holder don't always find their way into the hymnals of their competitors.

Other contemporary Catholic songs in the top 25 were "We Are Called," 11th place; "I Am the Bread of Life," 13th; "The Summons," 14th; "Shepherd Me, O God," 19th; "One Bread, One Body," 22nd, and "Hosea," which tied for 24th place with the traditional Catholic hymn "Pange Lingua."

Other traditional Catholic hymns on the list were "Ave Verum Corpus," 20th, and "Tantum Ergo," 23rd.

Songs on the list with roots in Protestant or evangelical hymnody included Richard Gillard's "The Servant Song," 16th place, and Donna Marie McCargill's "Servant Song," 18th.

Also making the list were "Let There Be Peace on Earth," in 12th place, and "Lord of the Dance," in 21st. "Both found their way into liturgical use, but came from outside the (liturgical music) culture," McMahon said.


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To: StAthanasiustheGreat
I was thinking good pre-game song), recommendations?

Dies Irae

41 posted on 01/27/2006 8:18:52 PM PST by LordBridey
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To: LordBridey

LOL


42 posted on 01/27/2006 8:48:13 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
..and has written things I would love to tear out of the hymnal...

I saw that a couple of weeks ago at a church in Maryland - one of the 'songs' was "Here I Am" and the page had been torn out of the hymnal. I showed it to Steve & we couldn't help laughing.

43 posted on 01/28/2006 11:52:43 AM PST by nina0113 (We got permits, yes we DO! We got permits, how 'bout YOU?)
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To: PanzerKardinal

Great list!

Everytime I see "Lord of the Dance in the hymnal I think I am going to see Michael Flatley come dancing down the aisle.


44 posted on 01/28/2006 1:00:36 PM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: PanzerKardinal

If the music doesn't lift one up to Heaven, it shouldn't be included in the Mass, IMHO - for either bad lyrics or bad music.

There is some modern music that passes muster...but soooooo much more that should never be there.

Do we need to send all music directors to Reeducation Camp?


45 posted on 01/28/2006 1:21:54 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: franky

Since we're debating Catholic hymns, I found my new least favorite. Never heard it played before but it's called "Just like you". Lyrics speak of Jesus as a lover, and a one desire. Kinda blasphemous.


46 posted on 01/28/2006 1:41:52 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: mike182d
Worst song in the history of Catholic liturgical music...ever.

I can almost visualize the queerish choir guy at my parish on his oboe bopping his head along, accompanied by the lady on the acoustic guitar. Ugh. Thankfully we usually have the organist at most of our Masses.
47 posted on 01/28/2006 1:43:14 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: franky

I also loath Sing to the Mountan, Sing to the Seas.


48 posted on 01/28/2006 1:46:24 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: franky
I'm not trying to start trouble, but I have a question: How would a Catholic Hymnal differ from a Baptist hymnal?

I just wondered as I was reading this thread.

Old Rugged Cross and In The Garden are my favorites.

49 posted on 01/28/2006 1:54:59 PM PST by lawnguy (Give me some of your tots!!!)
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To: siunevada
I was listening to Perry Como's "Greatest Gospel Songs" when I ran across this thread. "Holy God We Praise Thy Name" is on the album, as is "The Act of Contrition" -- (set to music of course), "The Rosary," "The Lord's Prayer," "Ave Maria" and many more old favorites.

Amazing how the world -- and the Catholic Church -- has changed in a few decades.

I haven't heard "Panis Angelicus" in years. Ah, well, I'll just have to find a recording and sing along.

50 posted on 01/28/2006 1:55:42 PM PST by browardchad
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To: Conservative til I die
Never heard it played before but it's called "Just like you".

"I'm dancing in your holy presence,"

Hey, this song's got it all!

Put that one back in the trunk, Matt Maher. Copyright 2000, they're not giving up are they?

51 posted on 01/28/2006 2:36:31 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: lawnguy
###"How would a Catholic Hymnal differ from a Baptist hymnal?"###

It really doesn't. The Catholic hymnal has many hymns including many by Isaac Watts.

I would believe that many of the hymnals contain the same hymns in most denominations.

I think the Anglican Church still sings many of the older hymns.

When the Gregorian Chants are used, it is then their is a separation of the Churches.
52 posted on 01/28/2006 5:37:25 PM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: lawnguy
How would a Catholic Hymnal differ from a Baptist hymnal?

The first difference that comes to mind is that a Catholic hymnal would have songs about Mary, while the Baptist hymnal would not. Other theological differences would also be reflected in song selections.

53 posted on 01/29/2006 5:01:35 PM PST by Steve0113 (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. -A.L.)
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