Posted on 01/25/2006 7:54:41 AM PST by NYer
He made similar hateful comments on several other recorded occasions. Thurgood Marshall was a vicious and hostile man, and thus it only makes sense that the current revisionist ECUSA would consider naming him a "saint."
I recently talked to a convert to Orthodoxy who said she knew of an Episcopal parish church with an icon of Malcolm X. It seemed so in character, that I couldn't even register surprise.
Friars are sort of modified monastics. They usually call their residence a friary, but they don't necessarily always live there. His superior is probably called "prior," but I'm not sure.
He is definitely supposed to be under obedience to someone, though.
Someone at Mount Athos wishes they'd never taught him iconography, I think.
Heaven's got nothing to do with it. They sainted Brittney Spears!
>> The diocese said Thurgood Marshall didn't speak publicly about his faith <<
'nuff said.
Interesting... since he wasn't Episcopalian.
I remember seeing MLK on an ECUSA calendar, and I assumed that this was an ECUSA-wide thing. I'm happy to be corrected.
Thanks for the link!
I think it would be far more effective for Kolokotronis to go up his Orthodox chain of command, and get his bishop (or the highest cleric he can communicate with effectively) to contact this heretic loon's prior. And the bishop can contact the order's superior in America while he's at it. And whoever in the Vatican is directly in charge of reunion or concordat talks with the Orthodox Church.
If this is phrased in terms of imperilling good relations with the Orthodox, I think you could REALLY set the cat amongst the pigeons . . . and that would be a GOOD thing. This man may or may not be evil, but he is doing an EVIL thing.
"Theology by committee" -- you gotta love the Episcopal Church. (snort).
"Holy Martin, blessed martyr"????? You have got to be kidding! We swam, too. Get the Holy Water for a complete hose-off.
I had the same thought, but I like your way of making it happen even better, AAM.
Don't forget to play the "victimized and offended minority group" card, K.; these liberal Franciscans are just desperate to be tolerant and extra-kind to every minority they can think of.
Do keep us posted, K. SOMEbody has got to start cleaning the Augean stables . . . and it's tough for us because we're knee deep in the muck. Which is better than things are over at the ECUSA - because they're NECK deep and in grave danger of suffocation . . .
He has St. Theresa of Avila banging on a tambourine -- singing Michael Row the Boat Ashore, one presumes.
And St. Theresa of Lisieux looks like a man. Grotesque.
Maybe I'm fooling myself, but his photo has that look -- the Mahoney, Bernardin look.
"lionized by the Latin Rite community if a google search is any indicator"
Satan never sleeps, and his minions are busy, busy, busy. I'll bet there are a hundred "liberal" sites for every ethical site.
Just as they almost monopolized bandwidth in the dinosaur media, liberals are seeking to wield influence out of proportion to their numbers on the Internet simply through sheer volume of posting.
Please don't draw inferences about the Roman Rite from the volume of sites that turn up on a search.
Here's part of the writeup for "Apache Christ"
"No people in North American history have suffered as much from stereotypes as have the Apaches. A proud, monotheistic people of the desert and mountains, their history are strikingly similar to those of the ancient Jews. They, too, were enslaved, to produce wealth for Spain and Mexico. Many of them were carried off by the United States army to the swamps of Florida and Alabama as prisoners of war. Their crime had been defending their land -- a land they considered holy -- from invaders who respected neither their culture nor their faith. They live today on reservations hidden away in what is left to them of their sacred mountains.
This icon celebrates the beauty of Apache culture -- specifically the culture of the Mescalero Apaches of New Mexico. Christ is depicted as a Mescalero holy man, greeting the sun of the fourth morning of the woman's puberty rites. These are the most sacred of the Apache ceremonies, celebrating the sanctity of the gift of producing new life. A sun symbol is painted on his left palm, and he holds a deer hoof rattle in his right hand. A basket at his feet holds an eagle feather, a grass brush, and bags of tobacco and cattail pollen -- items used in the rites. He stands atop 12,000-foot Sierra Blanca, the sacred mountain of the Mescaleros. Behind him flies an eagle, the guide who first led the Apaches to their "promised land." The inscription at the bottom of the icon is Apache for "Giver of Life," one of their names for God. The letters in Christ's halo are the Greek version of that name. The Greek letters in the upper corners of the icon are abbreviations for "Jesus Christ."
Christians find truth in what they call the Old Testament. They call the ancient Jews who fought slavery and defended their land, religious heroes and prophets. When the Apaches did the same thing during the last four centuries, however, Christians called them bloodthirsty savages and did their best to destroy them as a race. The Apaches have somehow survived four centuries of Christian genocide and continue to tell the stories of their heroes and prophets. Can modern Christians go beyond inherited stereotypes and find the sacred where they do not expect it? Apache prophets have much to say for those with ears to hear."
This guy is a complete loon.
Apaches weren't "fighting slavery and defending their land, religious heroes and prophets." Fer corn's sake, they were slavers themselves, and their heros were the most bloodthirsty killers and most fiendish torturers.
Their land was secure until after the Civil War, because they could (and did) kick the hiney of anybody who ventured onto it. The problem was not them being harrassed on their land; the problem was them treating the Mexicans like sheep to be slaughtered at whim.
The Mexicans even offered a bounty on them, but it was so hard to collect that the program didn't have much effect.
Then here's his description of Catherine of Siena:
In this icon she is shown with a mighty ship on her shoulder, a symbol of how St. Peter’s ministry had been changed by the medieval papacy. As she carries that ship, so did her prayers carry the hierarchy of her time. She is a patron for all those who feel crushed by religious institutions, as well as a great teacher for those drawn to a life of mystical prayer.A patron for all those who feel crushed by religious institutions....Checking my handy-dandy patron saint index...St Catherine...patronage--people ridiculed for their piety. I suppose he nuanced that one.
...a symbol of how St. Peter’s ministry had been changed by the medieval papacy.
How so?
"I suppose he nuanced that one."
Must be some new definition of "nuance" that I haven't seen yet. Looks like leftist craparillo to me.
"...a symbol of how St. Peter’s ministry had been changed by the medieval papacy....How so?"
I hope you're not asking me, because I have no idea what this loon is ranting about.
That said, I'm still gagging from the Seraphic Christ.
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