Posted on 01/24/2006 7:15:12 AM PST by Utah Binger
LOS ANGELES - As 2006 dawned, Jon Krakauer's Under the Banner of Heaven - about a ''divinely ordered'' double murder in 1984 by two members of a breakaway Mormon sect - was fresh off the best-seller list. Warren Jeffs, the polygamist prophet of this splinter group, the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, was on FBI wanted lists. And the world's first-ever ''Mormon- sploitation Retrospective'' of vintage fear-mongering anti-Mormon movies had just finished at the fringy Pioneer Theater in New York's East Village.
In public relations terms, this is not the easiest time to have the words ''Latter,'' ''Day'' and ''Saints'' anywhere close together in your name. And the going may get rougher after the filmmaker Christopher Cain finishes his new movie about one of the darkest moments in Mormon history, the Mountain Meadows massacre of 1857, in which 137 pioneers from Arkansas were killed in Utah by a raiding party whose ties to the LDS Church are still in dispute.
An early look at parts of "September Dawn" - viewed in a West Los Angeles editing room with Cain and his longtime editor, Jack Hofstra - suggests that there will be fresh debate when it finally reaches the public.
(Excerpt) Read more at sltrib.com ...
Amen.
In Houston strange weather is the norm.
I alternate between using my AC and heat just about every day during the winter/spring weather.
Ofcourse, once summer starts, it is the Air Conditioner 24/7!
I am glad to hear that you are doing much better.
Were you having health problems?
Sounds to me Paul was a widower.
That Paul was a widower ... who chose not to remarry ... is the general consensus in the Christian community.
***Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.***
How true! Once the Arians controled most of Asia, Europe, Spain and North Africa, surrounding the Trinitarians.
Then Rome sent a Trinitarian priest to preach to the
Arians. One hundred and fifty years later there wasn't an Arian to be found as all had converted to Trinitarian Christianity without armed conflict.
As you said, "People are not stupid." (Except maybe moslems)
Web site is back up!
Interesting read here.
http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/jesusgd2.htm
They have a tendency to excede bandwith near the end of the month.
These midnight shifts are killing me!
Just because he was living as a celebate does not mean he was not married.
Just because he was living as a celebate does not mean he was not married.
Paul taught that married people should not be celibate.1 Corinthians 7:3 The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband.
4 For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does; likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.
5 Do not deprive one another except perhaps by agreement for a set time, to devote yourselves to prayer, and then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
nmh isn't human, probably a monkey!
Bagley: I hear that they hope, once again, to complete the manuscript by May [2006]. And Oxford hopes to release the book by 2007, but given their track record, the fact that they failed to publish the Joseph Smith papers in time for the bicentennial of his birth, doesn’t instill a lot of confidence about their ability to produce on time. And I really think in the meantime someone in the Church hierarchy will have an attack of common sense and ask whether the Church should even publish an official book on the Massacre. No matter how they try to spin it, they [the Church] can’t deny that they’ve spent 5- 10 -20 million dollars on the project and still [they cannot] claim it is not an official [LDS] history. They’ve had virtually their entire Historical Department [10-15 professionals] tiedup in the project for the last 4 years. I do pray every night that they will be foolish enough to publish it, because my book’s sales could use the boost. Regardless, the [Arthur H. Clark Co.] Kingdom of the West series will be publishing its volume about Mountain Meadows, Innocent Blood: Narratives of the Mountain Meadows Massacre, next year.
Thanks for the update. The Church can not afford to tell the truth - not now anyway.
If they ever truly become a Christian Church and learn to accept their history, even as damaging as it may be, and accept the consequences, then and only then will they be on the road to true healing and true repentance.
Like I tell my kids, lying only digs you into a deeper pit.
Are ya'll going to see this?
According to IMDB, the writer/producer/director of the film is Christopher Cain, the adoptive father of TV Superman, Dean Cain, who just so happens to play Joseph Smith in his dad's movie.
I wonder if either Cain is a Mormon?
"Are ya'll going to see this?"
Does Kiefer Sutherland play Agent Jack Bauer in the movie?
If the movie gets released, I'll def. check it out.
Bad casting choice. Cain's head is too round, body's too buff, nose is too short to play Smith.
In the Church News a couple of weeks ago, they had an article regarding about this book. They interviewed Richard Turley and he said that it was taking much longer than they originally antipicated. They do plan on releasing the book next year, in time for the 150 anniversary of the Mountain Meadows Massacre. I was going to get the article and post it, but I've been sick the past while, so didn't get to it. It will be this weekend, I will ping you both to it.
While much is not clear about whether or not the ordering of the slaughter went straight to the top, one thing is clear: Brigham Young never felt any regret or remorse about the slaughter, until the day he died, never ordered the burying of the dead, and in fact viewed and then personally ordered the desecration of the monument to the dead put up by the US army.
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