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SERMON ON ECUMENICAL SUNDAY
Drell's Descants ^ | JANUARY 15, 2006 | Bradley L. Drell

Posted on 01/16/2006 7:05:53 AM PST by Huber

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To: HarleyD

***The church was never called to fight abortion, alcohol, poverty, the death penalty, etc. The church's Great Commission is to preach the gospel.***

When we preach the Gospel, the other issues will take care of themselves.


21 posted on 01/18/2006 1:37:33 AM PST by Gamecock (..ours is a trivial age, and the church has been deeply affected by this pervasive triviality. JMB)
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To: Gamecock
When we preach the Gospel, the other issues will take care of themselves.

Absolutely correct!!! The times of great prosperity in man's history is when we followed after God and obeyed His calling.

22 posted on 01/18/2006 1:41:52 AM PST by HarleyD (Joh 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on)
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To: Gamecock

Amen!


23 posted on 01/18/2006 3:50:05 AM PST by Huber
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To: HarleyD
Ecumenicalism is simply a sham to lead us into a social gospel.

It is important to differentiate between sham ecumenicalism, which is as you describe, and true ecumenicalism, which like most things that are truthful, receives little play in the press. Sham ecumicalism is deism at best, and is no more true ecumenicalism then the Democratic Republic of Germany was a true Democracy.

24 posted on 01/18/2006 3:54:52 AM PST by Huber
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I should note for the sake of full disclosure that over the past 30+ years I have attended a wide variety of churches simply because I've moved around a lot. If you believe in baptizing by sprinkling and I believe by immersion should these differences stop us from joining hands in holding a prayer conference? Of course not.

The problem I have with ecumenicalism (even "good" ecumenicalism) is that it minimizes doctrine. Roman Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants are getting together to "fight" social causes. Sounds great. Heck, I'm sure we could get the Jews, Mormons and Muslims to join us. But is this really God-inspired? If someone wants to join a church/temple/synagogue what do we tell them? The message of God's saving grace is replaced by man's brotherhood of man. At best its a luke warm gospel.

For some reason the seven churches of Revelation keep going through my mind.

25 posted on 01/18/2006 5:30:33 AM PST by HarleyD (Joh 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on)
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Amen - and the product of the ecumenalism are a lot of "para-church" organizations that water-down the Word of God, mix in a lot of earthly statistics and arguments, and end up cheapening the overall gospel message. See Focus on the Family as an example.


26 posted on 01/18/2006 5:53:17 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Good, now grab my arm. Other arm. MY other arm.")
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I've been mulling over this whole ecumenicism issue and what it means, so here goes:

The January/February issue of Modern Reformation came today. One of the articles was titled "The Transforming Message of Romans." It is set up in sections as follows:

The Transforming Message of Romans...To Augustine by Eric Landry, a PCA minister
The Transforming Message of Romans....To Luther, by Rod Rosenblatt, a LCMS professor of theology
The Transforming Message of Romans...To Calvin, by Kim Riddlebarger, a Reformed Pastor
The Transforming Message of Romans...To Spurgeon, by Ken Jones, a Reformed Baptist.

Four distinctive denominations, four matching perspectives on Salvation by Grace through Faith in Christ. I will participate in ecumenicism with anyone who professes that truth. Any church that preaches anything else, and I will not darken the door.

It might interest you that I spent Christmas day in a Reformed Baptist church. I and my family professed our Salvation through Grace through Faith in Christ, and confirmed that we were members of a church that preached the Gospel. At that point we were invited to participate in the Lord's Supper, even though we were all sprinkled as infants. That, IMHO is true ecumenicism.

27 posted on 01/18/2006 12:17:41 PM PST by Gamecock (..ours is a trivial age, and the church has been deeply affected by this pervasive triviality. JMB)
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>>I and my family professed our Salvation through Grace through Faith in Christ, and confirmed that we were members of a church that preached the Gospel. At that point we were invited to participate in the Lord's Supper, even though we were all sprinkled as infants. That, IMHO is true ecumenicism.<<

Amen!


28 posted on 01/18/2006 12:19:56 PM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Good, now grab my arm. Other arm. MY other arm.")
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To: HarleyD

...Sigh

Thank you for proving the point.


29 posted on 01/18/2006 12:34:52 PM PST by Huber
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That's what we Reformers are here for-to aggrevate everyone. ;O)


30 posted on 01/18/2006 1:01:22 PM PST by HarleyD (Joh 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on)
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To: Gamecock
When we preach the Gospel, the other issues will take care of themselves.

Amen !

31 posted on 01/18/2006 1:23:12 PM PST by RnMomof7 ("Sola Scriptura,Sola Christus,Sola Gratia,Sola Fide,Soli Deo Gloria)
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