So it is bait and switch if you offer a warm smile and a cup of joe to visitors to your church? It's bait and switch if you offer a nice friendly environment where a vistor can feel welcome?
That's pretty sad. I guess some Churches are unwelcoming and dour. I suspect dour people love to be in that environment. It's no wonder they leave when their churches become welcoming and friendly. When their dour experience fades, then they have to go elsewhere to relive the experience.
Marlowe, you yourself called it an "experience" to be promised (meaning the focus is on the person and not Christ), and said there is no harm in amusing the goats.
And again, I said there's nothing wrong in being friendly. That's not in the debate. What we're debating are the worldly means with which people are being "lured" into the church. Music, games, commerce, "you're ok - I'm ok", etc.
Please feel free to re-read my post yesterday on this subject (right after your cornfield comments).
I'm not in the habit of debating in circles, and really there's nothing more I can say on the topic, unless you care to answer the direct question I've asked you 3 times now.
Oh, and am I correct in assuming the "children" points are settled now, or is that still open? You didn't respond to my post regarding that.