Marlowe, you yourself called it an "experience" to be promised (meaning the focus is on the person and not Christ), and said there is no harm in amusing the goats.
And again, I said there's nothing wrong in being friendly. That's not in the debate. What we're debating are the worldly means with which people are being "lured" into the church. Music, games, commerce, "you're ok - I'm ok", etc.
Please feel free to re-read my post yesterday on this subject (right after your cornfield comments).
I'm not in the habit of debating in circles, and really there's nothing more I can say on the topic, unless you care to answer the direct question I've asked you 3 times now.
Oh, and am I correct in assuming the "children" points are settled now, or is that still open? You didn't respond to my post regarding that.
I see nothing wrong with a church having musical programs.
I see nothing wrong with a church having places for people to buy anything from books to coffee.
I see nothing wrong with a church preaching a message "How to get OK with God." (Beyond that 'transactional analysis' is an early version of counseling which today might be grouped in the narrative field; the point of which is to get people to reframe their own self-story. This is necessary with many people inclined toward defeatism and depression because they are so hard on themselves they built a story about their lives that ignores positive things that also have happened to them.)
I see nothing wrong with a Christian therapist using any appropriate understanding gleaned from the narrative schools of indiv and family therapy.
Jesus was talking about attitude. The person who wrote that so-called "childish" song undoubtedly wrote it from their heart. You seem to be too mature in the faith to appreciate it, but the person who wrote it obviously had the heart and the attitude of a child.
For all we know the person who wrote it could not think above that level. Is the heartfelt song of a retarted person less valuable or important or worthy of respect than the heartfelt song of a memeber of the intelligensia? Must everything be on your spiritual level to be considered reverent?