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To: Terriergal

That guy at http://christianunplugged.com/klenck_report.htm seems to worship tradition itself.

It reminds me of certain people during Jesus' time...

Cultural traditions (stained glass, "sunday best", organ music) are of no more value than a particular brand of car, when it comes to your Christian walk. For me, "cultural" traditions are a thing to be avoided. It is one of many reasons I am not a Roman Catholic.


323 posted on 01/11/2006 10:20:22 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy

Where do you get the worship of tradition in that report?

This is a report talking about the technique used to make changes in behavior or belief.


462 posted on 01/12/2006 9:27:13 AM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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To: RobRoy

RobRoy, I beg you ... read these articles on 'transitioning the established church.' This is stuff directly endorsed by Rick Warren himself. The book "Transitioning" by Dan Southerland is a very quick read and you should be able to get it at the library or through interlibrary loan (I wouldn't advise buying it and supporting it in any way). It is referenced extensivlely in the articles here, and has a glowing endorsement by Rick included. Keep in mind the following *titles* don't actually sound too bad. Just pay attention to the details of how they do it.

How to transition an established church – Part 1
by Chuck McAlister

Part 1 Plan Your Transition
http://www.pastors.com/article.asp?ArtID=4702

Part 2 Become an Expert on the Process of Change
http://www.pastors.com/article.asp?ArtID=4701

Part 3 Don't Be Afraid To Take Risks
http://www.pastors.com/article.asp?ArtID=4768

Part 4 Simultaneously Transition Your Worship Style as you change
http://www.pastors.com/article.asp?ArtID=4811

Part 5 Transition The Ministry Of The Church To The People And The Maintenance Of The Church To The Staff/Volunteer or Paid
http://www.pastors.com/article.asp?ArtID=4844

Part 6 Transition the Educational Ministry of the Church from an Information-Imparting Ministry to a Life-Empowering Ministry
http://www.pastors.com/article.asp?ArtID=4667


471 posted on 01/12/2006 10:01:39 AM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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