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To: Terriergal; sauropod

I'm glad you posted this. Kind of explains why we were no longer really welcome at my husband's church after the new Purpose-Driven Preacher arrived.

He did drive us out. Came to visit us at our home and talked to us for nearly two hours, drawing things out of us. Then used the things we had confided in him against us. Now I see it was all just to get us to leave. He didn't want our type there. He wanted ameners and nothing-matterers in the pews.

We've been looking but I am beginning to despair now of ever finding a place to worship, that hasn't been contaminated with bad theology and bad music. It's not fair. I was baptised less than 4 years ago, and suddenly, just when I need it most, there's not a church around that I can stand to sit in for very long. Makes me want to stop looking and stop trying.

I might as well. Going to church breaks my heart now, whereas opening the Bible does not. Maybe I should just stick to the Book.


171 posted on 01/10/2006 6:01:21 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart; ItsOurTimeNow
We've been looking but I am beginning to despair now of ever finding a place to worship, that hasn't been contaminated with bad theology and bad music.

Missionary to Nepal David Cloud has a great conservative church finder page on his website!!!!


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178 posted on 01/10/2006 6:22:57 PM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: hellinahandcart

You might want to see if there are any Reformer churches in your area. We found a very conservative (in worldview, not politics), Biblically sound church. Reformed Baptist.

We are also friendly with a neighboring Orthodox Presbyterian church...again, very sound.


184 posted on 01/10/2006 6:29:50 PM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Hail Him who saved you by His grace, and crown Him Lord of All")
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To: hellinahandcart

go to www.seekersensitive.com and post your story on the forum there. It's a great place. Not too well- known ...yet


279 posted on 01/11/2006 7:23:09 AM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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To: hellinahandcart
Then used the things we had confided in him against us.

You have been delphi'd!

see: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a37b321093ce6.htm

Also this one from a public school website: http://www.illinoisloop.org/committees.html Shows how the technique is used to build consensus and eliminate dissenters. People use it all the time and don't even consciously realize it, it's so ingrained in our society.

Another good resource is Dean Gotcher's "Diaprax" seminar

http://christianunplugged.com/klenck_report.htm

which is similar -- exposing the Delphi method at work, how the group works to make you go along with it against your principles.

280 posted on 01/11/2006 7:27:46 AM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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To: hellinahandcart
We've been looking but I am beginning to despair now of ever finding a place to worship, that hasn't been contaminated with bad theology and bad music. It's not fair. I was baptised less than 4 years ago, and suddenly, just when I need it most, there's not a church around that I can stand to sit in for very long. Makes me want to stop looking and stop trying.

I might as well. Going to church breaks my heart now, whereas opening the Bible does not. Maybe I should just stick to the Book.

We left a church that became polluted with Hybels stuff, which is not that much different than Warren. Same hymnal, different page. Church shopping was very discouraging for the reasons you described. But we did finally find a great conservative, fundamental and evangelical church that isn't off on some strange tangent. It is PCA church (although we were at another PCA church but weren't as comfortable). I have to say that after about 5 - 7 yrs of not being comfortable or actively seeking a church, I feel like I am truly at home. It is wonderful to be with other believers who put Christ and His word first in their lives.

I know many people in the same situation. Most have found church homes in the PCA, Orthodox Presbyterian, Reformed Baptist (we went to one in our area for a while, we liked it, but it is not where God directed us to be) and some other smaller Baptist or Evangelical Free (I think that is what it is called - senior moment at the moment!) or Cavalry churches. I am sure there are a few more, but I can't recall right now. My prayers are with you that you

295 posted on 01/11/2006 7:59:57 AM PST by lupie
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To: hellinahandcart
"We've been looking but I am beginning to despair now of ever finding a place to worship, that hasn't been contaminated with bad theology and bad music."

If the PDL preachers don't want you, then you should look at those they call "enemies". Fundamentalist. Just do a quick search on "Independent Fundamental Baptist" and I'm sure you can find one in your area that still preaches from the Bible. Don't be shocked when you see all the Fundamental Baptist Churches on a Goggle search, and be sure and read a couple of their "mission statements". Most have the traditional services and sing traditional hymns from hymn books and preach about sin and hell and the saving blood of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. The Lord led me to an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church close to 20 years ago, and I'm still amazed at what I missed growing up in the Southern Baptist Convention.
620 posted on 01/12/2006 8:47:17 PM PST by DocRock
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