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The purpose-driven pastor (Rick Warren calls Christian fundamentalists an enemy)
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Jan. 08, 2006 | Paul Nussbaum

Posted on 01/10/2006 10:06:56 AM PST by Terriergal

The purpose-driven pastor

By Paul Nussbaum

Inquirer Staff Writer

This week, it was the Rose Bowl players' breakfast. This month, it will be the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. Then the President's prayer breakfast in Washington, followed by an entertainment industry conference in Los Angeles.

Rick Warren, the Southern Baptist preacher's son from tiny Redwood Valley, Calif., is much in demand these days.

The founding pastor of the Saddleback mega-church south of Los Angeles and the author of the best-selling The Purpose Driven Life, Warren is perhaps the most influential evangelical Christian in America.

With his book - the best-selling hardback nonfiction book in the nation - and Purpose-Driven Life videos and 40-day Bible study plans, Warren has created an unparalleled international network of millions of individuals and 400,000 churches, spanning faiths and denominations.

Now he wants to use his growing influence - and wealth - for an ambitious global attack on poverty, AIDS, illiteracy and disease.

"The New Testament says the church is the body of Christ, but for the last 100 years, the hands and feet have been amputated, and the church has just been a mouth. And mostly, it's been known for what it's against," Warren said during a break between services at his sprawling Orange County church campus.

"I'm so tired of Christians being known for what they're against."

Fresh from preaching to 38,000 congregants during Christmas week services, Warren was looking to the future by invoking the past.

"One of my goals is to take evangelicals back a century, to the 19th century," said Warren, 51, shifting painfully in his chair because of a back sprain suffered during an all-terrain-vehicle romp with his 20-year-old son, Matthew. "That was a time of muscular Christianity that cared about every aspect of life."

Not just personal salvation, but social action. Abolishing slavery. Ending child labor. Winning the right for women to vote.

It's time for modern evangelicals to trade words for deeds and get similarly involved, Warren contends.

At the end of his second sermon last Sunday, he reminded his largely affluent Orange County audience: "Life is not about having more and getting more. It's about serving God and serving others."

That, simply put, is his message. Give your life to God, help others, spread the word. It is the same message that Christians have been preaching for 2,000 years. Warren has updated the language, added catchphrases and five-step guides, but he readily admits "there is not a new idea in that book."

The Purpose Driven Life has sold more than 24 million English-language copies since 2002, with millions more in other languages. It has been popular with Lutherans, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, with pastors and priests using it as a Bible-study handbook.

The book figured prominently in a hostage drama in Georgia last March. Ashley Smith, held by alleged Atlanta courthouse killer Brian Nichols, said he released her after she gave him methamphetamine and read to him from the book.

Warren "is able to cast the Christian story so people can hear it in fresh ways," said Donald E. Miller, director of the Center for Religion and Civic Culture at the University of Southern California. He is "a very important figure in evangelical Christianity," part of a "trend we'll see more of," Miller said, citing Warren's independence, social activism, informality and ability to reach across racial and national lines.

"The Gen X-ers are sick and tired of flash and hype and marketing," Miller said. "The soft sell of a Rick Warren is far more attractive to them than a highly stylized TV presentation of the Christian message."

Among evangelicals, Warren is more influential than better-known and more-divisive figures such as religious broadcasters Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell or radio psychologist James Dobson, and is often seen as the heir to the Rev. Billy Graham as "America's pastor."

Scott L. Thumma, a professor of the sociology of religion at Hartford Seminary and the author of a forthcoming book on mega-churches, said polls of church leaders often put Warren in first or second place among most-influential evangelical leaders.

"And one of the interesting things is that he crosses boundaries... . He's not just respected by the evangelical world but by many outside that world," Thumma said.

In North Philadelphia, the Rev. Herbert Lusk, the former Philadelphia Eagles running back who is pastor of the Greater Exodus Baptist Church and a prominent supporter of President Bush, brought Warren to town in November to raise money for aid to Africa. Lusk also tutored many of the Eagles' players and coaches in the Purpose-Driven Life program last year.

Lusk said Warren "took the principles that we preach about every Sunday and packaged them in a way that are palatable for Christians and non-Christians."

"The guy is a preacher's preacher... . He's the leading evangelical in the world, unquestionably," Lusk said.

Broadly defined, evangelicals are Christians who have had a personal or "born-again" religious conversion, believe the Bible is the word of God, and believe in spreading their faith. (The term comes from Greek; to "evangelize" means to preach the gospel.) The term is typically applied to Protestants.

Millions of Americans fit the definition, although estimates vary on exactly how many. Forty-two percent of Americans described themselves as evangelical Christians in a Gallup poll in April, while 22 percent said they met all three measures in a Gallup survey in May. The National Association of Evangelicals says about 25 percent of adult Americans are evangelicals.

Evangelicals are often equated with fundamentalists or the religious right, which annoys Warren. Although he's politically conservative - opposing abortion and gay marriage and supporting the death penalty - he pushes a much broader agenda and disdains both politics and fundamentalism.

Warren is a friend of President Bush and a repeat visitor to the White House. But he also met for several hours at Saddleback last month with Sen. John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee, to discuss issues such as poverty and the environment.

"I'm worried that evangelicals be identified too much with one party or the other. When that happens, you lose your prophetic role of speaking truth to power," Warren said. "And you have to defend stupid things that leaders do."

"Politics is always downstream from culture. I place less confidence in it than a lot of folks. I don't think that's the answer... . Politics is not the right tool to change the culture."

With his goatee and penchant for Hawaiian shirts and colloquial language, Warren embodies a laid-back approach to worship that resonates with Americans who have little allegiance to formal denominations or rituals.

His 120-acre hilltop campus, with palm trees, waterfall and meandering brook, is a kind of religious theme park, where worshipers meet in different buildings to suit their musical preferences, while watching simultaneous video feeds of Warren preaching at the main worship center.

Warren's father and grandfather and great-grandfather were all preachers. He followed their path by starting Saddleback in 1980 with his wife, Kay, and a congregation of seven. His ministry prospered in booming Orange County, as Warren went door-to-door, asking residents what they'd like in a church. For 15 years, he and his growing flock were nomads, meeting in schools, homes and other buildings. Construction started on the current campus in 1995, and Warren now has 80,000 names on Saddleback's rolls. Saddleback is a a Southern Baptist church, but it doesn't advertise the fact.

As the money has rolled in from his book, Warren said he has given most of the millions to the church and the three social-service foundations he has established. He stopped taking his $110,000 annual salary and repaid the church for his 25 years of salary since its founding. He and his wife became "reverse tithers," he said, keeping 10 percent of their income and giving away the rest, including $13 million in 2004.

This month, he is leading a trip to Rwanda, to train pastors and distribute medicine and money to battle AIDS and other diseases. It's part of what he calls his global PEACE plan (Plant a church, Equip leaders, Assist the poor, Care for the sick, Educate the next generation).

Last month, he launched the first major evangelical effort to battle AIDS, convening a three-day conference at Saddleback to mobilize American Christians to help AIDS victims and raise money to fight the disease. Part of the battle for Warren is overcoming resistance from evangelicals who view AIDS as strictly a gay disease or even as divine retribution for immoral behavior.

Warren said he sees religious institutions as more powerful forces than governments for solving the world's problems.

"I would trust any imam or priest or rabbi to know what is going on in a community before I would any government agency."

But, powerful as churches can be in working for the powerless, they can't succeed without governments and nongovernmental organizations, Warren said.

Warren predicts that fundamentalism, of all varieties, will be "one of the big enemies of the 21st century."

"Muslim fundamentalism, Christian fundamentalism, Jewish fundamentalism, secular fundamentalism - they're all motivated by fear. Fear of each other."

ONLINE EXTRA

To read the rest of the series on the evangelical movement by Paul Nussbaum, visit http://go.philly.com/religion


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Current Events; Ecumenism; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Other Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Skeptics/Seekers; Theology
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To: Full Court

"What's so wrong with those beliefs?"

There is nothing wrong with them and I don't think Warren is criticizing them. In fact he believes strongly in them as his writings show. The context of his statement is Christians acting in the world to help those in need. What he is saying is that modern day fundamentalists are known more for what they are against than what they are for. They have separated themselves so much from the hurts of the world that they have abandoned the stage, except for the abortion issue, to the liberals and social agencies. I don't think he was criticizing the five Fundamentals but the lack of Christian praxis in the Fundamental churches.


201 posted on 01/10/2006 6:47:59 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: Full Court


202 posted on 01/10/2006 6:48:06 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: xzins
He, too, has a master in whose estimation he will either stand or fall.

As Christians we do have a responsibility to warn the flock.

203 posted on 01/10/2006 6:49:39 PM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: blue-duncan
and I don't think Warren is criticizing them.

he says they are narrow and legalistic.

204 posted on 01/10/2006 6:50:31 PM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: P-Marlowe

Your post was blank.


205 posted on 01/10/2006 6:51:09 PM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: Full Court

"Son of man, I have made you a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore, hear the word from my mouth and give them warning from me...."


206 posted on 01/10/2006 6:51:22 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Full Court


207 posted on 01/10/2006 6:52:05 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: ClearCase_guy

It seems to me that he deliberately fails to define it, because "fundamentalist" has become such a hot-button code word for "religious jerk." Do you know anyone who defines themself as a fundamentalist? I don't. I define myself as a biblical Christian, who attends an Episcopal church because I grew up there and am comfortable with the liturgy and the music. But, if you cross-examined me in detail on my beliefs, many would describe me as "fundamentalist". To a lot of people, if you believe that the bible means what it says, you are a "fundamentalist".

It seems to me that Warren is trying to bypass that hot-button stereotype, and I'm not sure that's a bad thing.


208 posted on 01/10/2006 6:53:25 PM PST by walden
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To: Full Court; P-Marlowe; SandyInSeattle; Terriergal; xzins

"Here is the point:
If you believe the following, Rick Warren says you are just as bad as a Muslim fundamentalist, and that you are narrow and legalist."

Read the context of the statement. He is talking about separation because of fear of the world. That separation is pharisaism. We are told to go into the world to preach, heal, set at liberty and restore. You can't do that with a covenant of don'ts and fear. What we have in Christ and protected in us by the Holy Spirit he is saying don't hide go out and be lights and share it with the world.


209 posted on 01/10/2006 6:56:48 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: walden; ClearCase_guy; xzins; blue-duncan
Do you know anyone who defines themself as a fundamentalist?

I do. In fact I define myself as a White-Anglo-Saxon-Protestant-Right-Wing-Conservative Fundamentalist-Evangelical-Christian-Jesus-Freak. And if that doesn't offend just about everyone, then I'm sorry. I tried.

210 posted on 01/10/2006 6:59:47 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: walden; ClearCase_guy; xzins; blue-duncan
Did I say I was a Lawyer too?

That ought to do it.

211 posted on 01/10/2006 7:01:30 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: zeeba neighba

"Is ice and snow greater than God? Couldn't some walk over?"

Well He provided it and called our Pastor to make decisions like what is best for the families he was called to lead. No one walks to my church.


212 posted on 01/10/2006 7:03:08 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: Full Court
Thanks for the link.

He and his wife have been in Nepal for many years now.

I hope that means they have been spared many years worth of crappy modern praise music.

213 posted on 01/10/2006 7:04:15 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: blue-duncan; zeeba neighba
No one walks to my church.

It's 20 miles. Uphill. Both ways.

214 posted on 01/10/2006 7:04:38 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: Terriergal
Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther

God has blessed the church through him.

215 posted on 01/10/2006 7:07:27 PM PST by Dahlseide (TULIP)
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To: Dahlseide
God has blessed the church through him.

Incoming!

216 posted on 01/10/2006 7:09:00 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: Full Court

You have an unusual community. For the most part, in my experience,and in reading Fundamentalist material, that is not the case. again, when it comes to direct evangelism, they are without peer, but that is not all we are called to do. Look at some of the posts on this thread, at the heat Warren is taking, not just for his comment on Fundamentalism, on his urging the church to get involved in the social needs of the world, which we are called to do, and you can get a sense of the disappointment he must feel for the believing church and why he would think that we are "enemies"..


217 posted on 01/10/2006 7:09:48 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: P-Marlowe

me too


218 posted on 01/10/2006 7:13:07 PM PST by Dahlseide (TULIP)
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To: P-Marlowe; walden; ClearCase_guy; xzins; blue-duncan; jude24
That ought to do it.

NOt really. Not for me.

I've always wanted to know what you think is the very best lawyer joke you've ever heard.

:>)

219 posted on 01/10/2006 7:13:17 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: P-Marlowe

I have the Shield ready. If it is shell HE charge 7 cover my back side.


220 posted on 01/10/2006 7:17:05 PM PST by Dahlseide (TULIP)
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