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The purpose-driven pastor (Rick Warren calls Christian fundamentalists an enemy)
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Jan. 08, 2006 | Paul Nussbaum

Posted on 01/10/2006 10:06:56 AM PST by Terriergal

The purpose-driven pastor

By Paul Nussbaum

Inquirer Staff Writer

This week, it was the Rose Bowl players' breakfast. This month, it will be the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. Then the President's prayer breakfast in Washington, followed by an entertainment industry conference in Los Angeles.

Rick Warren, the Southern Baptist preacher's son from tiny Redwood Valley, Calif., is much in demand these days.

The founding pastor of the Saddleback mega-church south of Los Angeles and the author of the best-selling The Purpose Driven Life, Warren is perhaps the most influential evangelical Christian in America.

With his book - the best-selling hardback nonfiction book in the nation - and Purpose-Driven Life videos and 40-day Bible study plans, Warren has created an unparalleled international network of millions of individuals and 400,000 churches, spanning faiths and denominations.

Now he wants to use his growing influence - and wealth - for an ambitious global attack on poverty, AIDS, illiteracy and disease.

"The New Testament says the church is the body of Christ, but for the last 100 years, the hands and feet have been amputated, and the church has just been a mouth. And mostly, it's been known for what it's against," Warren said during a break between services at his sprawling Orange County church campus.

"I'm so tired of Christians being known for what they're against."

Fresh from preaching to 38,000 congregants during Christmas week services, Warren was looking to the future by invoking the past.

"One of my goals is to take evangelicals back a century, to the 19th century," said Warren, 51, shifting painfully in his chair because of a back sprain suffered during an all-terrain-vehicle romp with his 20-year-old son, Matthew. "That was a time of muscular Christianity that cared about every aspect of life."

Not just personal salvation, but social action. Abolishing slavery. Ending child labor. Winning the right for women to vote.

It's time for modern evangelicals to trade words for deeds and get similarly involved, Warren contends.

At the end of his second sermon last Sunday, he reminded his largely affluent Orange County audience: "Life is not about having more and getting more. It's about serving God and serving others."

That, simply put, is his message. Give your life to God, help others, spread the word. It is the same message that Christians have been preaching for 2,000 years. Warren has updated the language, added catchphrases and five-step guides, but he readily admits "there is not a new idea in that book."

The Purpose Driven Life has sold more than 24 million English-language copies since 2002, with millions more in other languages. It has been popular with Lutherans, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, with pastors and priests using it as a Bible-study handbook.

The book figured prominently in a hostage drama in Georgia last March. Ashley Smith, held by alleged Atlanta courthouse killer Brian Nichols, said he released her after she gave him methamphetamine and read to him from the book.

Warren "is able to cast the Christian story so people can hear it in fresh ways," said Donald E. Miller, director of the Center for Religion and Civic Culture at the University of Southern California. He is "a very important figure in evangelical Christianity," part of a "trend we'll see more of," Miller said, citing Warren's independence, social activism, informality and ability to reach across racial and national lines.

"The Gen X-ers are sick and tired of flash and hype and marketing," Miller said. "The soft sell of a Rick Warren is far more attractive to them than a highly stylized TV presentation of the Christian message."

Among evangelicals, Warren is more influential than better-known and more-divisive figures such as religious broadcasters Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell or radio psychologist James Dobson, and is often seen as the heir to the Rev. Billy Graham as "America's pastor."

Scott L. Thumma, a professor of the sociology of religion at Hartford Seminary and the author of a forthcoming book on mega-churches, said polls of church leaders often put Warren in first or second place among most-influential evangelical leaders.

"And one of the interesting things is that he crosses boundaries... . He's not just respected by the evangelical world but by many outside that world," Thumma said.

In North Philadelphia, the Rev. Herbert Lusk, the former Philadelphia Eagles running back who is pastor of the Greater Exodus Baptist Church and a prominent supporter of President Bush, brought Warren to town in November to raise money for aid to Africa. Lusk also tutored many of the Eagles' players and coaches in the Purpose-Driven Life program last year.

Lusk said Warren "took the principles that we preach about every Sunday and packaged them in a way that are palatable for Christians and non-Christians."

"The guy is a preacher's preacher... . He's the leading evangelical in the world, unquestionably," Lusk said.

Broadly defined, evangelicals are Christians who have had a personal or "born-again" religious conversion, believe the Bible is the word of God, and believe in spreading their faith. (The term comes from Greek; to "evangelize" means to preach the gospel.) The term is typically applied to Protestants.

Millions of Americans fit the definition, although estimates vary on exactly how many. Forty-two percent of Americans described themselves as evangelical Christians in a Gallup poll in April, while 22 percent said they met all three measures in a Gallup survey in May. The National Association of Evangelicals says about 25 percent of adult Americans are evangelicals.

Evangelicals are often equated with fundamentalists or the religious right, which annoys Warren. Although he's politically conservative - opposing abortion and gay marriage and supporting the death penalty - he pushes a much broader agenda and disdains both politics and fundamentalism.

Warren is a friend of President Bush and a repeat visitor to the White House. But he also met for several hours at Saddleback last month with Sen. John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee, to discuss issues such as poverty and the environment.

"I'm worried that evangelicals be identified too much with one party or the other. When that happens, you lose your prophetic role of speaking truth to power," Warren said. "And you have to defend stupid things that leaders do."

"Politics is always downstream from culture. I place less confidence in it than a lot of folks. I don't think that's the answer... . Politics is not the right tool to change the culture."

With his goatee and penchant for Hawaiian shirts and colloquial language, Warren embodies a laid-back approach to worship that resonates with Americans who have little allegiance to formal denominations or rituals.

His 120-acre hilltop campus, with palm trees, waterfall and meandering brook, is a kind of religious theme park, where worshipers meet in different buildings to suit their musical preferences, while watching simultaneous video feeds of Warren preaching at the main worship center.

Warren's father and grandfather and great-grandfather were all preachers. He followed their path by starting Saddleback in 1980 with his wife, Kay, and a congregation of seven. His ministry prospered in booming Orange County, as Warren went door-to-door, asking residents what they'd like in a church. For 15 years, he and his growing flock were nomads, meeting in schools, homes and other buildings. Construction started on the current campus in 1995, and Warren now has 80,000 names on Saddleback's rolls. Saddleback is a a Southern Baptist church, but it doesn't advertise the fact.

As the money has rolled in from his book, Warren said he has given most of the millions to the church and the three social-service foundations he has established. He stopped taking his $110,000 annual salary and repaid the church for his 25 years of salary since its founding. He and his wife became "reverse tithers," he said, keeping 10 percent of their income and giving away the rest, including $13 million in 2004.

This month, he is leading a trip to Rwanda, to train pastors and distribute medicine and money to battle AIDS and other diseases. It's part of what he calls his global PEACE plan (Plant a church, Equip leaders, Assist the poor, Care for the sick, Educate the next generation).

Last month, he launched the first major evangelical effort to battle AIDS, convening a three-day conference at Saddleback to mobilize American Christians to help AIDS victims and raise money to fight the disease. Part of the battle for Warren is overcoming resistance from evangelicals who view AIDS as strictly a gay disease or even as divine retribution for immoral behavior.

Warren said he sees religious institutions as more powerful forces than governments for solving the world's problems.

"I would trust any imam or priest or rabbi to know what is going on in a community before I would any government agency."

But, powerful as churches can be in working for the powerless, they can't succeed without governments and nongovernmental organizations, Warren said.

Warren predicts that fundamentalism, of all varieties, will be "one of the big enemies of the 21st century."

"Muslim fundamentalism, Christian fundamentalism, Jewish fundamentalism, secular fundamentalism - they're all motivated by fear. Fear of each other."

ONLINE EXTRA

To read the rest of the series on the evangelical movement by Paul Nussbaum, visit http://go.philly.com/religion


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Current Events; Ecumenism; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Other Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Skeptics/Seekers; Theology
KEYWORDS: apostasy; evangelicals; heresy; purposedriven; rickwarren
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To: TEEHEE

What church/denomination?


121 posted on 01/10/2006 2:58:50 PM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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To: SandyInSeattle; PAR35

He closed for Christmas because he figured there wouldn't be enough people there?

I thought Saddleback was open, it was Willow Creek that was closed, wasn't it?


122 posted on 01/10/2006 2:59:51 PM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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To: SandyInSeattle
How do you know if he's misunderstood?

Call me unreasonable but when a pastor has a boasted 30 or 40 thousand people in his congregation, how can you know the person 10 pews down, let alone the pastor, up close and personal?

His quotes are real and those alone tell any reader what he's all about. But then again.....readers and observers who are not subject to his spell seem to see things a little more clearly.

123 posted on 01/10/2006 3:00:24 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: PAR35
"I'm so tired of Christians being known for what they're against."

He says before launching into a rant against fundamentalist Christians.

good point. I had missed it even!

124 posted on 01/10/2006 3:00:36 PM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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To: SandyInSeattle

He says enough about himself publicly that he should be well understood. If he cannot communicate clearly what he means, well then... he should reconsider his calling.


125 posted on 01/10/2006 3:01:36 PM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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To: wallcrawlr
Serving others is worthy whatever the motive.

Hamas is loved by many Palestinians because they are known for their service to the poor, etc. And I really don't think you want to say that what Hamas stands for is worthy. :(

126 posted on 01/10/2006 3:03:13 PM PST by lupie
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To: Terriergal

It's unfortunate that he doesn't come across well when he speaks in public. Those of us who saw him every week know his heart.


127 posted on 01/10/2006 3:03:31 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: ClearCase_guy

"It quotes Warren as saying that "fundamentalism" is an enemy.

But it never defines what he means by fundamentalism."

That point was not lost on me either. When someone is quoted saying something that goes against what I thought the person would say, I need an explanation of what he meant when he said it. Especially when it is such a vague word.


128 posted on 01/10/2006 3:05:13 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis; SandyInSeattle
But then again.....readers and observers who are not subject to his spell seem to see things a little more clearly.

Sandy, I will give him that he is a downright likeable guy. I have listened to his messages online. They are fun to listen to, entertaining. But that's about it. They don't encourage me to delve deeper into the Scriptures which alone have the message with the power to save and then sanctify. His messages tell me to "work more" "work harder" "give more" "do more for the church organization." To me, that's preaching works.

The rightly handled word of truth will inspire me to do those things, as God ordains. I don't need someone guilting me into it by saying "you only love God as much as you *do* to support the church." (And I have gotten that message in an easy-to-swallow format from listening to him preach his Sunday Sermons.)

129 posted on 01/10/2006 3:05:54 PM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Those of us who saw him every week know his heart.

I understand, and that is why I said he is a likeable guy, and why I really pray he will stop and see what he is doing. Motives alone aren't good enough. Just because a Christian thinks it doesn't make it "Christian thinking." (I am not the source of that quote, but I can't remember who is)

130 posted on 01/10/2006 3:08:56 PM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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To: Terriergal; SandyInSeattle

I thought all of the market driven churches had gotten together on being closed on Sunday, Dec. 25. If Warren opted out of the conspiracy, I'll give him credit for that.


131 posted on 01/10/2006 3:09:09 PM PST by PAR35
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To: RnMomof7
The sermons became pabulum neither hot not cold.

THerefore I shall spewwww thee out of my mouth!

Your post reminded me of one of the Wisdoms of Hank Hill from the King of the Hill television program. I can't remember exactly how it went but it was something like "I don't believe in Jesus Rock. It don't make me love Jesus any better, but it sure makes me love Rock & Roll less."

Or something like that.

132 posted on 01/10/2006 3:09:29 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (Make Your Time.)
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To: PAR35

Saddleback didn't close. They had services on the 25th.


133 posted on 01/10/2006 3:10:00 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: RobRoy
That point was not lost on me either. When someone is quoted saying something that goes against what I thought the person would say, I need an explanation of what he meant when he said it. Especially when it is such a vague word.

There are plenty of quotes and writings available from Warren himself to give you the framework. But check post #13 where the work has been done for you... and that's just one sample.

134 posted on 01/10/2006 3:11:03 PM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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To: blue-duncan

Be careful of wiki-pedia on subjects like this. It's written by a bunch of homosexuals and communists, and nothing is vetted. Or so I'm told.


135 posted on 01/10/2006 3:11:04 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (Make Your Time.)
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To: PAR35

lol no. I saw that a lot of watered down churches *were* still open. Even the UCC church here was open! ("we take the Bible seriously, but not literally!")


136 posted on 01/10/2006 3:12:21 PM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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To: Terriergal

I will grant that his focus has changed from when I attended. He has turned his attention outward, to the world, and I'm not comfortable with that. I wish he would choose to either turn Saddleback over to his associate pastors and take on the world, or go back to focusing on his flock.


137 posted on 01/10/2006 3:15:01 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Terriergal; SandyInSeattle

Thanks for the correction.

"Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, which routinely draws 20,000 worshippers each Sunday, will hold one 11:15 a.m. service Christmas Day."
http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/atoz/article_883525.php


138 posted on 01/10/2006 3:18:37 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Boy... ONE service? Don't they have like, thirteen services every other Sunday?


139 posted on 01/10/2006 3:19:57 PM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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To: SandyInSeattle

Ok... :-)


140 posted on 01/10/2006 3:20:28 PM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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