"Do not grieve the Holy Spirit" Why not? We can't loose our salvation anyways...
The race being run has to do with rewards not salvation. (1Cor.9:24-26)
LOL!!! Read the next verse. As usual, you have to cut and paste Scriptures to get it to say your heretical views of the Word of God.
"I keep my body under, and bring [it] into subjection, lest preaching to others, I myself should become reprobate" 1 Cor 9:27
Other translations say "become disqualified". In either case, "there's no soup for you!" You don't get a prize for being disqualified or reprobate!
The final glorification has to do with our receiving our resurrection Body, not salvation (Rom.8).
Too many verses to prove this wrong.
"For if ye live according to the flesh, ye shall die [yes, you too, Christians who have been 'saved']; but if through the Spirit ye mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live" Romans 8:13
we are sons of God, and if sons, also heirs certainly of God and joint-heirs with Christ, if so be that we suffer with [him] that we may be also glorified together [with him]." Romans 8:17
"with the hope that the same creatures shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the sons of God" Romans 8:21 HOPE!
"For in hope we are saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for what a man sees, he does not wait for Romans 8:24 Wow. FAITH ALONE DOESN'T SAVE! We are also saved by hope!
Well, that's enough for now, I don't have time to go through every verse in Romans 8, but you should be able to see that eternal salvation is not a done-deal. Our salvation from sin has only begun.
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Very nice, thanks!
Now if you are saved, then you cannot lose that salvation (Eph. 4:30).
"Do not grieve the Holy Spirit" Why not? We can't lose our salvation anyways ...
Would this not be appropriate instruction to christians … even if there was no chance of losing our salvation ?
The race being run has to do with rewards not salvation. (1 Cor. 9:24-26)
LOL!!! Read the next verse. As usual, you have to cut and paste Scriptures to get it to say your heretical views of the Word of God.
"I keep my body under, and bring [it] into subjection, lest preaching to others, I myself should become reprobate" 1 Cor 9:27
Other translations say "become disqualified". In either case, "there's no soup for you!" You don't get a prize for being disqualified or reprobate!
A major problem with the argument that Christians may, repeatedly, lose their salvation (i.e. fall from grace) … and, yet, be restored back to their saved status, … after being granted forgiveness of their sin by a priest …
… is that Hebrews 6:4-6 says that it is impossible … for those which have fallen from grace … to be restored to a state of necessary repentance.Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,So the notion that one can lose one’s salvation, … and have it restored … even once … is unbiblical.
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
There may, indeed, be a danger of falling away, but such a falling would necessarily entail much more than, say, missing a weekend’s Mass.
Jesus said that there was only one sin which is unforgivable … that of blaspheming the Holy Ghost.
As such, it should be clear that “falling from grace” … is, ultimately, … a heart issue, … rather than a practice issue. If one’s heart is open towards relationship with God, then one will sekk His forgiveness for one’s wrongdoing.
The unforgivable, unrecoverable state of falling from grace will only occur when one desires a life totally unrestricted by the demands of a relationship with God.
It is when I am willing to do nothing … to foster my relationship with God, … that I have fallen (hopelessly).
That is correct, we do not grieved the Holy Spirit, since we want to be controlled by Him and not our flesh(Rom.7)
The race being run has to do with rewards not salvation. (1Cor.9:24-26) LOL!!! Read the next verse. As usual, you have to cut and paste Scriptures to get it to say your heretical views of the Word of God.
Vs 27 has to do with being found unfaithful in the ministry.
Hence the loss of crowns (see 1Pet.5)
"I keep my body under, and bring [it] into subjection, lest preaching to others, I myself should become reprobate" 1 Cor 9:27 Other translations say "become disqualified". In either case, "there's no soup for you!" You don't get a prize for being disqualified or reprobate!
Exactly!
If he fails, he gets no crowns
Which has nothing to do with salvation since there will be Christians who not get any rewards, but will still be saved (1Cor.3:13-15)
So, if one does not produce fruit then one gets no crowns in eternity, but that has nothing to do with ones salvation.
The final glorification has to do with our receiving our resurrection Body, not salvation (Rom.8). Too many verses to prove this wrong. "For if ye live according to the flesh, ye shall die [yes, you too, Christians who have been 'saved'];
Yes, you will die, you will die the sin unto death (1Jn.5:16)
That verse has nothing to do with eternal damnantion.
but if through the Spirit ye mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live
That is correct, walk in the spirit and not in the flesh (Rom.8:1) so God does not have to judge you in time. (Gal.6, Heb.12)
Romans 8:13 we are sons of God, and if sons, also heirs certainly of God and joint-heirs with Christ, if so be that we suffer with [him] that we may be also glorified together [with him].
That verse proves my view that since the believer is a heir, he is saved, but only fruit bearing will result in his glorifiction at the Judgement seat of Christ (Rom.14:10)
Romans 8:17 "with the hope that the same creatures shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the sons of God" Romans 8:21 HOPE! "For in hope we are saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for what a man sees, he does not wait for Romans 8:24 Wow. FAITH ALONE DOESN'T SAVE! We are also saved by hope!
No, we are not saved in the sense of the soul , but with the body, the final glorification of both body and soul together in one resurrection body.
vs.23 defines what the hope is referring to, 'to wit the redemption of the body.
As I said, Sanctification is in three phrases, first, salvation of the soul/spirit which is permanent at the time of faith in Christ, second, the Progressive sanctification, which is growth to earn rewards in heaven, and finally, ultimate sanctification, which is the receiving the resurrection body, which we now 'hope' for, yet do not yet see.
Well, that's enough for now, I don't have time to go through every verse in Romans 8, but you should be able to see that eternal salvation is not a done-deal. Our salvation from sin has only begun.
No, what you have shown is that you can just cite scripture without context and understanding.
Salvation is by faith alone, without works-proven by Rom.4:5, Eph.2:9)
Works show ones faith, they do not add to it since salvation is a free gift and cannot be earned.
Good works are suppose to be done by a Christian to glorify Christ before men and one is rewarded for them by crowns, gold, silver and precious stones in eternity.
The hope we hope for is the resurrection body and that is the final aspect of our eternal sanctification.
1Jn.5:13, 'these things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life...
You are suppose to know you have eternal life, not be striving for it.