That is correct, we do not grieved the Holy Spirit, since we want to be controlled by Him and not our flesh(Rom.7)
The race being run has to do with rewards not salvation. (1Cor.9:24-26) LOL!!! Read the next verse. As usual, you have to cut and paste Scriptures to get it to say your heretical views of the Word of God.
Vs 27 has to do with being found unfaithful in the ministry.
Hence the loss of crowns (see 1Pet.5)
"I keep my body under, and bring [it] into subjection, lest preaching to others, I myself should become reprobate" 1 Cor 9:27 Other translations say "become disqualified". In either case, "there's no soup for you!" You don't get a prize for being disqualified or reprobate!
Exactly!
If he fails, he gets no crowns
Which has nothing to do with salvation since there will be Christians who not get any rewards, but will still be saved (1Cor.3:13-15)
So, if one does not produce fruit then one gets no crowns in eternity, but that has nothing to do with ones salvation.
The final glorification has to do with our receiving our resurrection Body, not salvation (Rom.8). Too many verses to prove this wrong. "For if ye live according to the flesh, ye shall die [yes, you too, Christians who have been 'saved'];
Yes, you will die, you will die the sin unto death (1Jn.5:16)
That verse has nothing to do with eternal damnantion.
but if through the Spirit ye mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live
That is correct, walk in the spirit and not in the flesh (Rom.8:1) so God does not have to judge you in time. (Gal.6, Heb.12)
Romans 8:13 we are sons of God, and if sons, also heirs certainly of God and joint-heirs with Christ, if so be that we suffer with [him] that we may be also glorified together [with him].
That verse proves my view that since the believer is a heir, he is saved, but only fruit bearing will result in his glorifiction at the Judgement seat of Christ (Rom.14:10)
Romans 8:17 "with the hope that the same creatures shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the sons of God" Romans 8:21 HOPE! "For in hope we are saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for what a man sees, he does not wait for Romans 8:24 Wow. FAITH ALONE DOESN'T SAVE! We are also saved by hope!
No, we are not saved in the sense of the soul , but with the body, the final glorification of both body and soul together in one resurrection body.
vs.23 defines what the hope is referring to, 'to wit the redemption of the body.
As I said, Sanctification is in three phrases, first, salvation of the soul/spirit which is permanent at the time of faith in Christ, second, the Progressive sanctification, which is growth to earn rewards in heaven, and finally, ultimate sanctification, which is the receiving the resurrection body, which we now 'hope' for, yet do not yet see.
Well, that's enough for now, I don't have time to go through every verse in Romans 8, but you should be able to see that eternal salvation is not a done-deal. Our salvation from sin has only begun.
No, what you have shown is that you can just cite scripture without context and understanding.
Salvation is by faith alone, without works-proven by Rom.4:5, Eph.2:9)
Works show ones faith, they do not add to it since salvation is a free gift and cannot be earned.
Good works are suppose to be done by a Christian to glorify Christ before men and one is rewarded for them by crowns, gold, silver and precious stones in eternity.
The hope we hope for is the resurrection body and that is the final aspect of our eternal sanctification.
1Jn.5:13, 'these things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life...
You are suppose to know you have eternal life, not be striving for it.
"Good works are suppose to be done by a Christian to glorify Christ before men and one is rewarded for them by crowns, gold, silver and precious stones in eternity."
Hey guys, sort of like 72 black eyed virgins, right?
Presumably, but not automatically. Consider that Paul tells his readers/listeners that people can be disqualified, can be disinherited. So persevere or else!
"I keep my body under, and bring [it] into subjection, lest preaching to others, I myself should become reprobate" 1 Cor 9:27 Other translations say "become disqualified". In either case, "there's no soup for you!" You don't get a prize for being disqualified or reprobate!
If he fails, he gets no crowns
Which has nothing to do with salvation since there will be Christians who not get any rewards, but will still be saved (1Cor.3:13-15)
Nice try, but one who is disqualified doesn't get ANYTHING. No heaven, no crown, no prize, nothing. One such as that is cast out of heaven, since anyone who achieves heaven has received a great prize. A person in heaven has NOT been disqualified. Again, you are desperately reaching, just as in James.
So, if one does not produce fruit then one gets no crowns in eternity, but that has nothing to do with ones salvation.
Wrong. No fruits, no heaven. Quite simply, if you have no fruits, you are not abiding in the Lord, you have no faith, you aren't saved... Attaining eternal life is not about a one-time event.
Yes, you will die, you will die the sin unto death (1Jn.5:16)
Don't use John to prove Paul's meaning. They are two different writers using two different meanings. Go to the end of Romans 6:
For the wages of sin is [eternal] death, but the grace of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Rom 6:23)
but if through the Spirit ye mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live
That is correct, walk in the spirit and not in the flesh (Rom.8:1)
And if you don't???
That verse proves my view that since the believer is a heir, he is saved...
No it doesn't. You forgot the word IF in Romans 8:13. IF you do such and such, THEN you will be such and such...
No, we are not saved in the sense of the soul , but with the body, the final glorification of both body and soul together in one resurrection body.
There is no sense of any sort of separation between salvation of the body and the soul. That is your personal twist that the passage [Rom 8:17,21] never distinguishes. And what about "hope saves"?
As I said, Sanctification is in three phrases, first, salvation of the soul/spirit which is permanent at the time of faith in Christ, second, the Progressive sanctification, which is growth to earn rewards in heaven, and finally, ultimate sanctification, which is the receiving the resurrection body, which we now 'hope' for, yet do not yet see.
I disagree with this. First of all, when we die, we aren't going to be receiving glorified bodies. That will not occur until the Final Judgment. Second of all, salvation is not permanent until we die. At that point, our eternal destiny is determined. Christ didn't teach that we could rest secure in our salvation as a done deal. He over and over preached perseverance - and He also told us that many will say "Lord, Lord..." and Jesus will reply "I never knew you". Only those who DO the will of the Father will be saved, not those who claim they know the Father.
We believe that justification/sanctification is an ongoing process that is never finished in this life - nor is it eternally secure in while we are alive, as one can always return to their former ways, as a "dog returning to the vomit (cf. 2 Peter 2:22)
Salvation is by faith alone, without works-proven by Rom.4:5, Eph.2:9)
Neither of those two verses say we are saved by faith alone. They say we are saved without works, but it doesn't say "faith alone". Sorry. Read what is there... You are the one twisting verses here. The Bible NEVER NEVER NEVER says we are saved by faith alone. I find that VERY strange, IF that was the true Gospel. The only time "faith" and "alone" are placed TOGETHER is when James DENIES it - "we are NOT saved by faith alone"...
You can complain and accuse me all you want, but the simple fact is that the Scriptures tell us that faith alone does not save.
I would be happy to discuss what else is necessary, but you are going to have to be more open to the truth, rather than repeating the same old stuff that the Scriptures explicitly denies.
Regards