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To: Forest Keeper; jo kus; Kolokotronis
This is the part that I'm struggling with. How is one to know what is or is not infallible Church teaching? How is one to know what is or is not infallible Church Tradition?

The selling of indulgence was once an "infallible" Church teaching. After two hundred years it was condemned. One has to wonder how a infallible teaching could go bad.

3,171 posted on 03/03/2006 2:16:27 AM PST by HarleyD ("Man's steps are ordained by the Lord, How then can man understand his way?" Prov 20:24)
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To: HarleyD

"The selling of indulgence was once an "infallible" Church teaching. After two hundred years it was condemned. One has to wonder how a infallible teaching could go bad."

The selling of indulgences was never part of Holy Tradition. It was a practice in the West. In fact, the whole concept of indulgences is essentially Western. The idea existed in the East in a few places but it never gained any traction.


3,176 posted on 03/03/2006 3:34:48 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: HarleyD
The selling of indulgence was once an "infallible" Church teaching. After two hundred years it was condemned. One has to wonder how a infallible teaching could go bad.

Get your facts straight. You should know better. The idea of indulgences is infallible. Selling of them was an abuse. Indulgences are not meant to be sold, they are given by the power invested in the Church to bind and loosen. A large donation (we call "almsgiving") is a valid means of walking in faith. Did not Jesus commend the old lady who gave two pennies? Was she buying an indulgence??

Regards

3,182 posted on 03/03/2006 4:57:33 AM PST by jo kus (I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore CHOOSE life - Deut 30:19)
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