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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis
Where does "creatures" come from?

That which is created is a creature. That which is divine is uncreated. I am beginning to believe you are rather new at this, since you are not familiar with much of the standard theological vocabulary.

I would respectfully disagree about "begotten" because I see it as referring to the "man" Jesus, who was obviously "begotten". I would say that "The Son" was in full existence well before He was "begotten"

If that is what you believe, you are not a Christian. Jesus is Incarnate; the Son is begotten from the Father. You are making up your own theology as you go along, FK, that much is obvious.

2,878 posted on 02/21/2006 3:26:29 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; jo kus
FK: 'Where does "creatures" come from?'

That which is created is a creature. That which is divine is uncreated. I am beginning to believe you are rather new at this, since you are not familiar with much of the standard theological vocabulary.

You are correct. I am very new at this. In fact, this is my first real theological discussion on this level with those with whom I disagree, ever. And, I am not ashamed. Everyone has to start somewhere.

FK: 'I would respectfully disagree about "begotten" because I see it as referring to the "man" Jesus, who was obviously "begotten". I would say that "The Son" was in full existence well before He was "begotten" '

If that is what you believe, you are not a Christian. Jesus is Incarnate; the Son is begotten from the Father. You are making up your own theology as you go along, FK, that much is obvious.

Thanks a lot! :), and I'm not even sure what part you are saying is un-Christian. As Jo and I have been recently discussing, I have been using "begotten" in the sense of "to sire" or "to cause to exist". Jo has another view, which is fine. However, Jo and I agree that the Son and the Father had no beginning and neither existed before the other. If this is your beef then you are calling all Catholics un-Christian along with me.

2,935 posted on 02/23/2006 12:30:05 AM PST by Forest Keeper
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