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[An insight into how ECUSA got into its mess... --sionnsar]
1 posted on 12/21/2005 10:35:10 AM PST by sionnsar
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2 posted on 12/21/2005 10:36:01 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || To Libs: Celebrate MY diversity, eh! || Iran Azadi 2006)
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As important the authority of Scripture is, the authority of the Holy Spirit of God, who is still working his purpose out for the Church and the World, trumps it every time!

So God contradicts himself?

3 posted on 12/21/2005 10:39:54 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: sionnsar
we are not literalists or fundamentalists. We never have been, for if we were women would still be wearing hats, and be unable to speak in church, serve on vestries, and certainly they could not be ordained. Remarriage after divorce would be considered adultery, and Christians could not charge other Christians interest on loans. And, so on. The sum of it all is that we do not proof text the Bible, nor do we take every word or direction literally for our time.

Yes. There's the root cause of your problem, especially the last three words. It was only a matter of time before you ordained sodomites. Heaven only knows what's next.

4 posted on 12/21/2005 10:43:07 AM PST by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. words mean things)
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To: sionnsar

Yep, you are right.

O Holy Spirit,
Open our eyes if we try to use you
as an excuse to do what we want,
instead of doing the will of the Father.
Instead, O Spirit,
let the fire of your love
ignite in us a hunger for the truth,
a hunger to live in the light of Jesus,
and to walk in his steps,
this day, and always,
Amen.


6 posted on 12/21/2005 11:52:55 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: sionnsar

Here is the response of this fundamentalist former Episcopalian. It's all been tried before. As the Apostle Peter wrote:

"Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

"But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping."

2 Peter 1:21 - 2:3

Read 2 Peter. It is very revealing about the falsehoods being spread in the Episcopal Church. Also the Letter of Jude:

"For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

"Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire."




7 posted on 12/21/2005 5:21:04 PM PST by kaehurowing
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It's fascinating to me, that while 30+ years ago the theologically liberal used Reason and skepticism to justify their unbelief ("different interpretations...") today, after the EVANGELICAL charismatic movement of the '70s and '80s (especially powerful in the Episcopalean church) they are trying to claim the "leading of the Holy Spirit" for the results of their apostasy.

We should not forget, that when the Pharisees accused Jesus of performing wonderful, God-glorifying miracles by the power of the devil, instead of the Holy Spirit, He told His disciples that "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" was the one sin that cannot be forgiven.

I daresay, what the confused, sin-darkened-mind liberals try to justify their gross "blessing" of abominations by saying its the Holy Spirit leading....they are perilously close to that same sort of blasphemy.


11 posted on 01/25/2006 9:15:46 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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